Expanded bevel on TS 55 REQ saw & others

[woodwrights_corner]

The newer TS 55 REQ will have an expanded bevel range from -1 to + 47 degrees.  I was talking with a friend and we agreed that would be nice to have when you find you need it.  However, neither of us could come up with any standard operations where it would be necessary all of the time.  Can anybody help me out with some, if any, standard situations where this expanded range will be needed.

Thanks.

 

[Deansocial]

Cutting wall panels that go around a corner thats greater than 90°

 

[woodwrights_corner]

Thanks, however is that a corner this is planned to be greater than 90 degrees or just not installed square?

 

[Brice Burrell]

Thanks, however is that a corner this is planned to be greater than 90 degrees or just not installed square?

I work on older homes all the time, things are never square....   

 

[vwdave]

Brice, with how things are framed nowadays they are even further out of square then older homes. Most of the base I cut for outside corners require a 46-47 degree on each piece so the face of the base is closed up.

On Friday I was installing some beadboard and I cut the miters at 47 degrees, the miter was nice and tight on the face.

Dave

 

[Brice Burrell]

Brice, with how things are framed nowadays they are even further out of square then older homes. Most of the base I cut for outside corners require a 46-47 degree on each piece so the face of the base is closed up.

On Friday I was installing some beadboard and I cut the miters at 47 degrees, the miter was nice and tight on the face.

Dave

You said Dave, the advantage of the new TS55R will being able to over cut miters to be sure the face of panels fit nice and tight.

 

[Stone Message]

Cutting wall panels that go around a corner thats greater than 90°

I agree but I know that others might think that the finished job should be square. Sometimes life does not work out like that. The 17th century part of my son's house comes to mind.

Peter

 

[Alan m]

i was working in a new build last year and every corner was off

 

[vwdave]

The framing is usually square but once the drywall is added then the cornerbead followed by the mud, now you have a corner no where near square or flat to the remaining wall. Cutting the mudd out doesn't work because the top of base gets buried in the wall. So the only option is cutting your base greater then 90.

Dave

 

[harry_]

Plumb, level, and square is a text book thing, rarely found in the real world of home construction and remodeling.

It applies in a shop setting for cabinets and the like, right up until it is time to install them. Hence the need for shims, scribing, and fillers.

Being able to cut a little over/under can make a huge difference.

 

[woodwrights_corner]

Thanks everybody.  That is what we were thinking, too.  We were just wondering if there was some standard application we had missed.
While the practice of framing absolutely square corners probably never really existed in mass, it was a good myth that some were.  The new, expanded range of bevel on the TS 55 REQ is going to be nice.   Thanks again.  

 

[Scott B.]

The framing is usually square but once the drywall is added then the cornerbead followed by the mud, now you have a corner no where near square or flat to the remaining wall. Cutting the mudd out doesn't work because the top of base gets buried in the wall. So the only option is cutting your base greater then 90.

Dave

By the time we (painters) get there, there is usually a belly gap between the base and wall about 18" off the outside corners. Same on crown. Too much to caulk, and if we did, it'd make a fat line on the top of the base (or cap). We end up floating alot of those in with mud to create the illusion of straight.

 

[Jalvis]

If your building a four cornered mitered box or columns its a lot easier to cut the last miter or two at 46 degrees.  The 1-2 degrees really helps with any inaccuracys in the cuts, material, and room for glue. 

The extra beveling is one of the reasons I have the Mafell MT55.  after making some Mitered columns and boxes I'm glad for the ability.

 

 

[Deansocial]

Just a correction i meant a corner less than 90° no more than

 

[Stone Message]

Just a correction i meant a corner less than 90° no more than

If you have one less than 90 degrees then, in the same room, you have to have one that is more than 90 degrees.

This is a fundamental truth just like...

Have you noticed that when you are looking for something that you always find it in the last place that you look!

Peter

 

[Alan m]

Just a correction i meant a corner less than 90° no more than

If you have one less than 90 degrees then, in the same room, you have to have one that is more than 90 degrees.

This is a fundamental truth just like...

Have you noticed that when you are looking for something that you always find it in the last place that you look!

Peter

thats only true if they maage to keep the walls straight. iv seen loads of stud walls adjusted to fix some other cock up. total nightmare

 

[Timtool]

I actually used my TS55R on an install job some weeks ago, and had to cover some walls with rough solid wood boards(don't ask) and over cut the miters, so there was room for some caulk glue on the miters while the ends were perfectly closed.

 

[Deansocial]

Just a correction i meant a corner less than 90° no more than

If you have one less than 90 degrees then, in the same room, you have to have one that is more than 90 degrees.

This is a fundamental truth just like...

Have you noticed that when you are looking for something that you always find it in the last place that you look!

Peter

Not true. Only works with straight lines peter, walls are not straight

 

[Stone Message]

Just a correction i meant a corner less than 90° no more than

If you have one less than 90 degrees then, in the same room, you have to have one that is more than 90 degrees.

This is a fundamental truth just like...

Have you noticed that when you are looking for something that you always find it in the last place that you look!

Peter

Not true. Only works with straight lines peter, walls are not straight

Neither is right or wrong...but chances are you will get both over and under 90 degrees. Anyway - who cares - the saw is great.

Peter

 

[skids]

I have never found a plaster wall that didn't need a 46 degree, so why not 47! As a standard I cut almost all my outside corners for base etc at 46, be nice to have the flexibility to 47 on any saw if you ask me.