Extech OR Tramex.....

I'm with Dave, funny to watch you argue with yourself  [big grin]

I don't have one but I do like the Testo 616.  Could be tempted  ;)
 
JMB,

I know some people who have been using a Wagner moisture meter but don't ask me which one. I do know they are very accurate meters on the high end spectrum. Their prices are in that range too! I guess it all depends on how accurate you want to be. Of course if you saw and plane your own timber you could use a pin meter. (for accurate measuring with a pin meter you'll have to drive the pins not just a bit, but as far as you can in the wood in my experience, it does give a different reading) I am aware you being able to use a Felder combo planer from a friend from a mate  [laughing]) But if you rather use planed, ready to use material it may be wise to use a pinless moisture meter in order to not do any damage that could be seen in your finished product. But getting an accurate meter is expensive (especially the ones one uses just for wood and not just any material!) I though haven't ever heard about any of the other meters you mentioned so I can't say anything about them whatsoever. Myself I use a cheap Stihl meter (don't laugh!) and it allows me to measure in different lengths of my own (not yet dimensioned) sawn timber and gives me a good overall indication of the moist content in the wood. The end grain of a board obviously gives a lower rating then when measuring somewhere halfway a four meter 5 centimeter board in its face grain. It all depends on your needs!
 
JMB,

I have a Wagner MMC220 pinless meter.  It is designed for woods, not all the materials that you have mentioned wanting it for.  This model is interesting due to the fact that you select the wood species that you are using or enter the specific gravity of the species so that you can an even more accurate reading.  I have been happy with it.

Word of advice - if you are looking at pinless models, check the depth of reading.  A model that reads 1 inch deep will not be any good on 1/2 inch material.

Sorry I didn't respond earlier.

Peter
 
Dave Reinhold said:
We just like watching you talk to yourself.

I have have a lignomat model: Mini ligno e/d.  I only used it to check the moisture content in trim when its delivered and subfloors before we install the hardwood.  Its worked well for me.

lol  I thought every one might !  I was getting bored talking to my self though. 

So im glad people are communicating with me now lol

JMB

 
Kev said:
More confusing ...

http://www.exotek-instruments.com/PDF-Documents/MC-380XCA(eng).pdf

I thought extech and exotek were the same ...

Now thats  interesting and it can do 100mm WOW that is deep!  But also being able to do 10mm.  Dam its another one to the list!

Picking a circular saw, chain saw, nail gun is dead easy for me  but  this is proving to be very difficult for me. 

I want to take the plunge and on Tuesday I will be taking the plunge for one of the moisture meters just still dont know which one yet.

They all have their benefits.  I just need to pick between having one which will be most accurate and only does one type of material OR go for one which I would hope to be accurate enough for what I need it for but able to do multiple materials.   

I could just by multiple moisture meters for specific materials but its going to cost to much and I dont think for how much I would use them I could justify going down that route.

JMB
 
woodguy7 said:
I'm with Dave, funny to watch you argue with yourself  [big grin]

I don't have one but I do like the Testo 616.  Could be tempted  ;)

I would appriciate if you was to buy the Testo 616 soon as possible and let me know what you think of it?!?  [tongue] [tongue]

JMB
 
Mauri Motti said:
JMB,

I know some people who have been using a Wagner moisture meter but don't ask me which one. I do know they are very accurate meters on the high end spectrum. Their prices are in that range too! I guess it all depends on how accurate you want to be. Of course if you saw and plane your own timber you could use a pin meter. (for accurate measuring with a pin meter you'll have to drive the pins not just a bit, but as far as you can in the wood in my experience, it does give a different reading) I am aware you being able to use a Felder combo planer from a friend from a mate  [laughing]) But if you rather use planed, ready to use material it may be wise to use a pinless moisture meter in order to not do any damage that could be seen in your finished product. But getting an accurate meter is expensive (especially the ones one uses just for wood and not just any material!) I though haven't ever heard about any of the other meters you mentioned so I can't say anything about them whatsoever. Myself I use a cheap Stihl meter (don't laugh!) and it allows me to measure in different lengths of my own (not yet dimensioned) sawn timber and gives me a good overall indication of the moist content in the wood. The end grain of a board obviously gives a lower rating then when measuring somewhere halfway a four meter 5 centimeter board in its face grain. It all depends on your needs!

I agree I like the wagners also from reading up about them.  

As far as which one I should buy if its accuracy dependant for one specific material
I think the Wagner or Tramex would be the ones to buy.  

Knowing what im like I would prefer one which would give me the most accurate reading possible.  

I just wish I could find out how accurate the other multi purpose moisture meters are in comparison.   If we are talking .5 or so difference im not bothered then but if we are talkin 2 - 3 - 4% difference in readings then it would defiantly affect my decision choice.

As regards to the pin or pinless I would like the option of both mainly because watching videos etc pinless is a slow method of reading moisture content so I would like the pinless method to quickly scan over to give me a rough idea and then I could use the pins to check more accurately if needed

JMB
 
Peter Halle said:
JMB,

I have a Wagner MMC220 pinless meter.  It is designed for woods, not all the materials that you have mentioned wanting it for.  This model is interesting due to the fact that you select the wood species that you are using or enter the specific gravity of the species so that you can an even more accurate reading.  I have been happy with it.

Word of advice - if you are looking at pinless models, check the depth of reading.  A model that reads 1 inch deep will not be any good on 1/2 inch material.

Sorry I didn't respond earlier.

Peter

Not making my choice easier lol! im trying to stay away from the one material moisture meters but I feel I keep getting drawn to them more due to the more accuracy they offer.

Im glad you mentioned about the pinless moisture meters depth measuring limitations.   I was assuming it could go up to a certain depth so if you was measuring thinner material it wouldn't mater as I thought it might automatically adjust or you just set the thickness of material you was testing.
 
brett the £30 one i sent you as a joke had an accuracy of +-1% so i dont think it will be a prob for the more expensive uns
 
fezza said:
Protimeter mms is the one you want. Has a pin mode to test timber RH, non invasive mode to quick scan concrete/screed floors, any suspect area you drill the floor and insert a plastic plug, you then insert the mms hygrometer sensor to test RH of the slab. Used one for years, a quality bit of kit.

http://www.ge-mcs.com/download/sensing-manuals/MMS-Instruction.pdf

how do you go on testing when there is underfloor heating?
 
fezza said:
Protimeter mms is the one you want. Has a pin mode to test timber RH, non invasive mode to quick scan concrete/screed floors, any suspect area you drill the floor and insert a plastic plug, you then insert the mms hygrometer sensor to test RH of the slab. Used one for years, a quality bit of kit.

http://www.ge-mcs.com/download/sensing-manuals/MMS-Instruction.pdf

Seems like a good  all round device!  DAM IT! 

From the recent comments 

I now have my mind set on

Protimeter MMS  and  extech MO290 (with all appropriate accessories)
                                   
Extech  M0290 £500 ish  (with accessories)

Protimeter MMS Plus kit  £700

Protimeter MMS  £640

JMB

 
With underfloor heating, they do a box that you tape to the floor and the the mms is connected to it. It creates a sealed chamber on top of the concrete that will give you your rh reading. Its the best way to test for moisture, you have to leave the box overnight with a sensor connected, simply connect a wire between sensor and mms.

Fball also do a similar box with a built in hygrometer, costs about £95 if i remember right.

 
The TRAMEX CMEX2  as a kit does everything also I didnt know untill now didnt look into to much detail before just watched the video! 

Oh sod it I feel like giving up on this!  Im just going to write down the main moisture ones  I think I wanna go for on pieces off paper stick them in a HAT and just pick one out and the one I pick is the one ill buy    Thats easiest way! lol

JMB
 
jmbfestool said:
The TRAMEX CMEX2  as a kit does everything also I didnt know untill now didnt look into to much detail before just watched the video! 

Oh sod it I feel like giving up on this!   Im just going to write down the main moisture ones  I think I wanna go for on pieces off paper stick them in a HAT and just pick one out and the one I pick is the one ill buy     Thats easiest way! lol

JMB
Does anyone over there offer you a trial unit ... ?

If all other criteria fail you - go for the longest warranty !
 
Well.......

I finally got my moisture meter!        I have been playing with it last night and tonight its seems consistent at the moment! I wanna test with DEAN Socials moisture metre to see how it compares at readings!   

Reason I choice this one!  Mainly because it was the cheapest for what it had to offer!  Others where cheaper but only did one thing!  The others which cost more might be more accurate but still only did a few things  others with the same amount of features where ALOT more expensive!

I hope I made the right choice ........... [unsure]

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