Fastening a cleat to the inside of a systainer

[Mark Katz]

I'm making a diamond plate holder in the style of Paul Sellers system. I'm sizing it to just fit inside a systainer but i'd like to raise it up on cleats to near the top of the systainer so I can use the space below for associated supplies.

What would be the best way to attach some cleats (maybe 3/4" x 3/4") to the sides of the systainer to hold the assembly up. It will have considerable weight as it will have three 8" x 3" DMT DiaSharp stones plus a leather strop.

I'd rather not put screws in from the outside so some sort of glue would be needed. Would CA glue be the best? Any particular version? How about epoxy (never used it before)? It would need to form a strong bond between the plastic systainer sides and the wooden cleat.

If a cleat glued to the side would not be strong enough, I could put a solid block of wood on each side all the way down to the floor of the systainer. I'd still need advice on how to glue that to the sides so it was stable.

Thanks, Mark

 

[Dick Mahany]

I wouldn't trust many glues for joining wooden cleats to the ABS Systainer and definitely not CA.  One option might be to use 2 small legs under the cleats for added support and use automotive double sided adhesive ( such as the type used to attach body trim mouldings) to secure the cleats/legs to the sides.  That type of adhesive is nearly permanent.

 

[Svar]

Version 1. Screw a strip of ABS plastic (this is what SYS is made from) to the cleat and glue that (ABS strip side) to the inside of systainer with ABS cement (solvent). That will create permanent bond.
Version 2. Make cleat entirely from ABS plastic.
Version 3. Glue ABS plastic block(s) with trapped t-nuts in them. Then you can mount anything you want to them.

 

[Peter_C]

I have no clue who Paul Sellars is and what his design is...

Why not just make the bottom part of your insert have a full rim on it and rest the upper shelf on that? Gluing to the sides would be fine if you get the right solvent and get a great bond going. Although if you build a lower insert you probably won't be able to get the lower insert in or out with the cleats installed.

Here is an example of what I mean. Both inserts can be pulled right out. The top one has tabs that extend above the height of the open Systainer to be able to grab it for removal.

 

[sancho57]

I have no clue who Paul Sellars is and what his design is...

Why not just make the bottom part of your insert have a full rim on it and rest the upper shelf on that? Gluing to the sides would be fine if you get the right solvent and get a great bond going. Although if you build a lower insert you probably won't be able to get the lower insert in or out with the cleats installed.

Here is an example of what I mean. Both inserts can be pulled right out. The top one has tabs that extend above the height of the open Systainer to be able to grab it for removal.

hes a very well knownand highly regarded woodworker. I tried to take one of his classes when I lived in the UK. However it didnt work out for me. Here is a link to give you  idea who he is.