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[DynaGlide]

That worktable is up there with other things they make like their uber expensive ASA 5000 boom arm. Some folks with cash to burn will get it. As it is, it's just a cutting station. The Walko bench seems a lot more versatile and useful. Doesn't appear to be manufactured anymore though.

 

[Cheese]

how does the TKS 80 EBS compare to the Erika in price and functionality? Had a bad case of sticker shock when I was looking into the Erika, lol

There are 2 versions of the TKS 80.

TKS 80 EBS for $2122

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TKS 80 EBS Set for $3527

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[rubber_ducky]

There are 2 versions of the TKS 80.

TKS 80 EBS for $2122

TKS 80 EBS Set for $3527

Thanks for the info. Do you happen to know availability in the US by chance?

Edit: seems strange that the “base” package doesn’t include a fence. Implies that one would use this for cross-cutting only

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[AlexThePalex]

- The table saw is not too short. It is supposed to be a portable solution, not a steady shop saw. With the extensions it is one of the biggest portable saws on the market.

- That working cutting table is not going to be a big seller, I can see that right now. No one is going to sell his MFT for this ... thing.

- I like the extra wide systainer, I was really annoyed with the limited width of their current systainers. I already got a few tools in mind for that one.

how does the TKS 80 EBS compare to the Erika in price and functionality? Had a bad case of sticker shock when I was looking into the Erika, lol

Erika is still at least 50% more expensive. As for functionality, the TKS 80 has SawStop technology to save your fingers, a very valuable safety feature. The Erika has not. But the Erika is a pull saw, and that is not only pretty safe, it is also a very handy feature. What I also expect with the TKS 80, knowing Festool saws like my CS70 and TS55, is that they will start to struggle once you approach their max cutting depth, and the Erika will not. 

seems strange that the “base” package doesn’t include a fence. Implies that one would use this for cross-cutting only

It does include a fence, that thing with the semi-circle.

 

[Cheese]

Just to add to the information that Alex posted:

20" x 36" table on Erika. 28" x 33" table on TKS 80.

Erika weighs 89#. The TKS weighs 105#.

Erika spins at 2050-4300 rpm. The TKS spins at 1700-3500 rpm. Like Alex noted, cutting thicker materials will probably be easier on the Erika.

 

[rubber_ducky]

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It does include a fence, that thing with the semi-circle.

Seems to me that the highlighted bit is the fence. The part with the semicircle looks like a miter gauge to me

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[GarryMartin]

Seems to me that the highlighted bit is the fence. The part with the semicircle looks like a miter gauge to me

They're both fences, but the "semicircle" one is multi-functional. From a CS 50, but you get the idea...

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[AlexThePalex]

Yeah, what he said.

No need to tell me what it is, I'm one of the few here who actually owns a saw from this family. In practice, I use the miter gauge fencey-thingy 99% of the time and that other fence is just gathering dust because it sort of sucks.

 

[GarryMartin]

In practice, I use the miter gauge fencey-thingy 99% of the time and that other fence is just gathering dust because it sort of sucks.

Love that! "Miter gauge fencey-thingy" is so much closer to the vocabulary I'd use than "angle stop" will ever be!  [wink] [big grin]

FWIW, I'm in complete agreement that "that other fence" sucks. Complete PITA to ever get it locked square.

 

[mrboult]

Quite liked the table, till I saw the price.
Might buy one of those big systainers to put wheels on and be a bigger cart option. Looks a bit suspect on the regular cart

Thanks for posting

 

[bertv]

New promo video’s for all of the new products have been posted on the various Festool YouTube channels.

 

[sancho57]

Yah the miter fence is what I use now and its dead nuts on. the other fence is sitting in the shop somewhere collecting dust.

Yah the miter fence is what I use now and its dead nuts on. the other fence is sitting in the shop somewhere collecting dust

As far as the cutting table, I have 3 MFTs 4 if you count my Kapex MFT. I use 1 MFT with the extension for cutting sheets of ply.

The other 2 I set my kapex extensions on, mainly due to space limitations.

The cutting table being collapsable would be useful and free up room in the shop.

Ill see how it goes with the new shop Im going to have built.

Its going to give me a lot more room and Im going to expand it and make a outdoor work area over time.

Then I can have 1 MFT just set premantently up for cross cutting.

 

[TSO_Products]

Here are some of the new products:
- TID 18 already on the FOG
- FS-WA rail 90 degree angle jig (copy of TSO?)
- STM 1800 folding work table
- TKS 80 EBS with SawStop technology
- RAP 230 polishing machine
For more pictures go to: Festool Germany New Products

YES, friends, the FS-WA/90 Festool Guide Rail Square for the international market (only) is the result of a licensed collaboration with Festool GmbH. It is produced in volume in Germany based on our engineering documentation and equipped with the TSO Latch we tooled up and began using in the US last year - but of course the international version from Festool has the FESTOOL GREEN handle [smile].

Hans

 

[Michael Kellough]

Sure hope the rail square is licensed by TSO.

The tablesaw appears to be too short.

The folding worktable cutting table could be handy. Looks like it might not be sufficiently supportive to be a worktable.

If the release of this folding table leads too people selling MFTs then they never learned how to use the MFT.

Please show how us to properly use the MFT , 

Please show us how to tilt the MFT to make it easier to set panels on.

Please show us how to adjust the height of the MFT of us shorter folks.

There are lots of videos on using the MFT.
It’s size does limit it’s use to panels small enough that you can pick up and place on the worktable.
The MFT-3 is taller than the previous MFT generation to accommodate taller folks.
Maybe you can swap?

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

For MFT height, I cut down the legs so the table height is 885mm to serve as out feed (and not interrupt work flow) for my shop tools with a 890mm working height.

In other words, if the MFT height is too tall for you, just cut the legs down. Or, mount the MFT on a height-adjustable table so you can dial the height in as-needed.

 

[wheely]

Here are some of the new products:
- FS-WA rail 90 degree angle jig (copy of TSO?)

YES, friends, the FS-WA/90 Festool Guide Rail Square for the international market (only) is the result of a licensed collaboration with Festool GmbH. It is produced in volume in Germany based on our engineering documentation and equipped with the TSO Latch we tooled up and began using in the US last year - but of course the international version from Festool has the FESTOOL GREEN handle [smile].

Hans

https://www.festool.co.uk/accessory/205229---fs-wa90%C2%B0

Interesting, that seems like a good move for you at TSO.
Will the Festool version be fully compatible with your accessories ?

 

[Michael Kellough]

Just to add to the information that Alex posted:

20" x 36" table on Erika. 28" x 33" table on TKS 80.

Erika weighs 89#. The TKS weighs 105#.

Erika spins at 2050-4300 rpm. The TKS spins at 1700-3500 rpm. Like Alex noted, cutting thicker materials will probably be easier on the Erika.

The proportions of the Erika are nearly ideal, imo. I only need a tablesaw for repetitive narrow ripping and beveling so it does not need to be wide although the option to add a side table is welcome.

The new Festool tablesaw is wider so it appears shorter than it is but I’d prefer more space in front of the blade to get stock well oriented before entering the blade.

I like a long straight fence. With such (the longer the better) you can straighten rough stock in a few passes without involving other machines. No excuse for a fence that can’t be easily locked parallel to the blade. I’m spoiled by my Paralok fence but even my old (temporary replacement after a fire) Ryobi BT 3000 fence worked as it should and also locked at the rear. It can be done.

 

[RKA]

Wow, the availability of the guide rail square from Festool was something I didn't expect.  Congrats to TSO and well done Festool!  It's probably my most used 3rd party accessory for my Festools.  Making it available across the globe for all users is terrific!  And the addition of the threaded holes suggests more good things to come!

 

[DynaGlide]

Festool UK posted a video on the worktable today:

 

[Michael Kellough]

Okay, that’s very handy.