Festool Built In Coffee Machine for Kitchens

Offshoreman69

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My wife is negotiating for one of those Miele built in Coffee makers in the kitchen. She is convinced if Festool made one there would be no debate...

So what are the chances the German tool makers have a coffee maker in grey and green in mind? Or better yet a Festool Red Bull dispenser! h
 
Miele makes great products. If your wife wants one of them you should make her happy. It will pay off when you want anything Festool to be able to compare your preferences to hers. In fact, you can just say you have learned from her how important it is to buy quality.
 
greg mann said:
Miele makes great products. If your wife wants one of them you should make her happy. It will pay off when you want anything Festool to be able to compare your preferences to hers. In fact, you can just say you have learned from her how important it is to buy quality.

Bingo!

Tom
 
You can always get the La Pavoni professional machine like I got for my wife 23 years ago and she still uses it almost every day.

Jack
 
I have a super-auto form Jura, not built in..But same brewing process..I am telling you right now, the machine will pay for itself in spades once you get addicted to it. And you will...Make sure and research the Meile machines, they can be a little more finicky. Get the most well-reviewed and reliable one with the strongest warranty. They are complex machines, that like cars will need regular maintenance.

In the 9 years I have had my Jura, I haven't had a SINGLE breakdown, and I send it in every 3 years for a full refurb. $265 well spent. When the machine is gone it's a miserable week in our house. The brewing process (pressure brewing no filter) of those machines is the way coffee is supposed to be brewed, I can't even drink drip coffee any more.

Like others mentioned, get the machine, make your wife happy..When you brew a cup in the morning and go down to your shop and start cutting wood with your coffee you will be a happy camper.  [wink]
 
Tom Bellemare said:
greg mann said:
Miele makes great products. If your wife wants one of them you should make her happy. It will pay off when you want anything Festool to be able to compare your preferences to hers. In fact, you can just say you have learned from her how important it is to buy quality.

Bingo!

Tom

I need lessons on this. I had been advocating that our lives would be much improved if only I had a Big Green Egg, but this was falling on deaf ears. Then one day we "needed" a new couch and darned if the boss had not found one that was simply perfect. Being the shrewd devil I am I immediately jumped on the opportunity and traded the couch for a BGE. Score!

Turned out the couch cost $5K, the egg around $600. Oops.  [doh]

A good coffee-maker ought to be worth an OF2200, at least.

RMW
 
Offshoreman69 said:
My wife is negotiating for one of those Miele built in Coffee makers in the kitchen. She is convinced if Festool made one there would be no debate...

So what are the chances the German tool makers have a coffee maker in grey and green in mind? Or better yet a Festool Red Bull dispenser! h

Oh please,   GREEN Bull  [laughing]

And there is this  http://festoolownersgroup.com/fun-games-diversions/interesting!/

Seth
 
Just reading this post is giving me cravings. I had my last coffee just on two weeks ago. Over a week of solid headaches from the withdrawal.

 
Luckily you are over the worst the Kev. The first week is always the worst.
 
Miele, to my knowledge, made a couple of very clever in-wall espresso systems.

One was based on the fairly common super-automatic system used by the likes of Saeco, Jura, etc. You put in whole beans, fresh water (or plumb in), and power it up. It does all the work of grinding, dispensing, brewing, and ejecting spent coffee pucks. You do have to clean them, or your coffee quality will taste off (rancid flavors, etc). The Saeco countertop super-auto I had included another disadvantage, in that it slowly warmed the beans if left on all day, making them go stale and rancid very quickly. I learned not to store much in the bean hopper for that reason. Don't know if Meile solved that problem. Espresso I sampled from various super-autos varied from gritty and sour to respectable, depending on how well it was tuned, maintained, and the freshness of the beans/water. Starbucks has switched most of their stores to super-autos... less training required.

The other machine Meile made was based on the, again fairly common, Nespresso capsule system. Low maintenance, no fuss, consistent quality, and almost never a "sink shot." Internally it could hold a small stock of several varieties of capsules, say decaf, regular, dark, and light roasts... or even specialty single-origin and flavor-infused roasts. No concerns with using up your fresh roasted beans within a week, as the capsules are hermetically sealed and nitrogen charged to prevent oxidation of the ground coffee. The aluminum capsules are also recyclable. The result is pretty good, but not excellent, espresso. I've had worse in popular coffee shops and restaurants. I use a Nespresso machine at my office.

Excellent espresso is sweet and memorable, leaving you completely satisfied and thinking "that was really yummy!". It takes fresh roasted beans, a quality grinder (sometimes costing more than the brewing equipment), and a well-maintained, clean espresso machine that can produce real pressure with consistent temperature... everything dialed in, a bit of practice, and wham, you have a real shot of espresso you can truly enjoy straight up. At a few grains of sugar, twist of lemon zest, and a piece of dark chocolate on teh side for a treat.
 
Y'all are missing the ultimate solution.  Buy the coffee machine, but don't give it to her immediately. Send it to a shop and have all the plastic parts painted Festool Green; remove the manufacturer's decal or medal, and replace with a faux Festool Label.  She'll be so impressed that she'll never again balk at your Festool purchases!

Wouldn't be the first time. Have you seen all the fake Festool watches for sale on eBay?  Sure there's someone who could fake a coffee maker! [tongue]
 
I would suggest buying a Keurig and then buying some Festool to make it a built in.
 
    I've had a Jura-Capresso S9 for about 10.5 years or so.  It's a very good machine... In that time I sent it in to get refurbished once due to a water leak and I've replaced the o-rings on the brew group (not a task for the timid) and replaced a small plastic gear (it was less than an inch in diameter and about 5/8" thick and cost $65).  The Jura machines are not cheap crap and they will actually brew good coffee (I think mine cost me around $2,400 when I bought it).  I drink daily what starbucks sells as Americano's, where I brew espresso and add hot water to it (we have an Insinkerator insta-hot so it's quick and easy, and the Jura unit will also pump out hot water for coffee, tea, cocoa.  I generally drink Cappacinno's only on weekend mornings and use Roland Demerara sugar cubes (Here)in them.  The machine still looks pretty new and it's just a sign if you buy a quality machine it will be with you for some time. 

Chris... 
 
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Oh please,   GREEN Bull  [laughing]

Seth
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Seth, I think that there is plenty GREEN Bull going on around here already.  [poke]
 
Monster Energy has a very close green ripmarks on their can to Festool green ;-)
 
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