Festool C18 - Video

[Stone Message]

Hi Everyone

I created a thread recently showing the CXS and TXS. This is the second of a 3 part series and shows the C18. The final video will be a brief round-up of all the Festool drill-drivers that I can get my hands on.


Peter

 

[yetihunter]

Beep.  [big grin]

 

[Stone Message]

I think you mean...

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Peter

 

[yetihunter]

My love for the T18 and PDC deserves a raunchy novel with Fabio on the cover.
Sure, my new Metabo BS 18 LTX-3 Q comes in for the heavy lifting, but I always fall back into the dependable and sensitive electronic clutches of Festool's 18v drill/drivers.  Don't judge me, I'm a modern girl.

 

[Dick Mahany]

I liked the video, nice work.  Can you demonstrate the offset/eccentric chuck mounted on the 90 degree adapter?  That would be useful for me.

 

[yetihunter]

I liked the video, nice work.  Can you demonstrate the offset/eccentric chuck mounted on the 90 degree adapter?  That would be useful for me.

The eccentric chuck won't fit to the right angle chucks. 
The keyless chuck and centrotec chuck fit to just the shaft, the
eccentric chuck and right angle chucks have a keyway system that latches onto
the grill looking metal that surrounds the shaft on the drill body.

Edit:  My drill is 30 minutes away from me.  So scroll down this review and you'll find the pertinent images that better show what I tried to describe.  It's for an older drill but the chucks are the same.
http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/reviews/festoolTDKdrills.htm

I wish this connection method was utilized on the CXS/TXS and the PDC/DRC because it's really really really really good.

 

[mrboult]

Peter. Try holding the c18 in pistol grip with your index finger pointing down/along the body, your middle finger testing on the legde above the trigger and your ring finger operating the trigger.

I find the c18 the most awful drill ergonomics ever if you don't use this grip method. I think that's how it was designed to be used... But each to their own obvs..

 

[tallgrass]

I think that is how it is supposed to be held. I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I had my choice all drills would be like this.

 

[Stone Message]

Peter. Try holding the c18 in pistol grip with your index finger pointing down/along the body, your middle finger testing on the legde above the trigger and your ring finger operating the trigger.

I find the c18 the most awful drill ergonomics ever if you don't use this grip method. I think that's how it was designed to be used... But each to their own obvs..

A chap that I met a while ago has every drill driver that Festool make and also some other makes. He too pointed this out to me and for that reason does not like the drill as much as the others.

As you say, each to their own and that is why I made the point at the end of the video for people to try it before they buy. There are plenty of dealers that will have a demo machine and then there are the shows.

Peter

 

[yetihunter]

Am I the only person that holds every drill in that fashion?  Actually, I'd have my pinky on the trigger if my hands weren't so small. :0

 

[Euclid]

Am I the only person that holds every drill in that fashion?

No, you're not; that's my preferred 'hold' too - whenever practical, and the design of the drill in use allows it.

 

[Jmacpherson]

Thank you for yet another great informative video Peter.

I tried the C18 out but my hand/wrist/brain would not compute with the design even though I own the smaller sibling.
I went the T18 route instead to partner my PDC.

[member=19475]yetihunter[/member] - I used the PDC with a 20x460mm auger on a Brazilian pepper tree stump and its roots that just won't die this weekend.
PDC handled it in 2nd and 1st gear but still twisted/kicked on me a few times. I found myself thinking if only I had the Makita/Metabo big boys but I hardly drill things like that

 

[Mario Turcot]

Thank you Peter for another useful video  [cool]

Am I the only person that holds every drill in that fashion?  Actually, I'd have my pinky on the trigger if my hands weren't so small.

Perhaps it goes with the fact you are a modern girl  [tongue] (not judging here).

Mario

 

[CrazyLarry]

Gotta comment been biting my lip for ages ... what is it with this obsession with the 'pistol grip' C series?

It's mental... horribly uncomfortable and totally unergonomic; control is with the index finger not the 'rest of the paw'!!!

It's not personal preference either, anymore than running on your hands is versus running on 2 legs it's just bloody obvious.

And as for the CXS; worst most uncomfortable drill I've ever owned just terrible totally outclassed by the offerings from bosch metabo makita and dewalt and I'm no fan of any of them generally.

The PDC if it didn't have so much wobble in the gearbox would be a winner but you can either use it for finesse OR grunt work and as soon as you do the later it loses the ability to be accurate. It does however have the ability to immobilise at 30 yards those without ear protection in percussion mode!!!

There I've said it now

 

[yetihunter]

Thank you Peter for another useful video  [cool]

Am I the only person that holds every drill in that fashion?  Actually, I'd have my pinky on the trigger if my hands weren't so small.

Perhaps it goes with the fact you are a modern girl  [tongue] (not judging here).

Mario

[big grin] lol

 

[yetihunter]

Gotta comment been biting my lip for ages ... what is it with this obsession with the 'pistol grip' C series?

It's mental... horribly uncomfortable and totally unergonomic; control is with the index finger not the 'rest of the paw'!!!

It's not personal preference either, anymore than running on your hands is versus running on 2 legs it's just bloody obvious.

And as for the CXS; worst most uncomfortable drill I've ever owned just terrible totally outclassed by the offerings from bosch metabo makita and dewalt and I'm no fan of any of them generally.

The PDC if it didn't have so much wobble in the gearbox would be a winner but you can either use it for finesse OR grunt work and as soon as you do the later it loses the ability to be accurate. It does however have the ability to immobilise at 30 yards those without ear protection in percussion mode!!!

There I've said it now

You're not alone, I have a borderline personality disorder relationship with the C style.
Sometimes I love it, other times I hate it.  Never am I meh.  I suppose it's great art.
The C18 does have the most precise screw driving of then all (splitting hairs).  But that is what's under the hood and not the shape of it. 

My PDC is still as accurate as ever, so, I guess I'm lucky. 

 

[pingvinlakrits]

I too have that love/hate relationship with the C models. Prefer them when the Centrotec chuck is mounted. Loathe it with the drill chuck on. Can't decide whether to use the middle finger or the index finger. But I have been given Festool the middle finger for a while so there you have it.

I have the T18, C18 and CXS. I always wonder why I don't prefer the T18, it sits better in hand and is more comfortable with the drill chuck on.

I do love the CXS both for grip, size, front magnet and clip. Wish it RPM'ed a little higher and had a little more torque.

The very best precision drill was the old C12 for me personally. Amazing. The C18 is close though.

 

[waho6o9]

Love my C12s one for drilling and the other for driver bits. I recently acquired the PDC through the refurbished program

and it's awesome. Thank you Festool!

 

[ScotF]

I like all my Festool drills - had a T15 and C12 sold them both. Now have a PDC, TXS and C18. I like both C and T and like having options. The PDC is wonderful and precise and I like the torque setting. I have no issues switching gears and like that I can turn the light on and off. The C18 is just a great drill all around - precise, light weight and love the chucks - just good all around. The TXS is an extension of my hand. I wish it had a little more power, but for what it is designed for, it works very well and is a great drill/driver.

Batteries on all of them last forever and a day - so that is another huge plus.

 

[yetihunter]

Can't decide whether to use the middle finger or the index finger. But I have been given Festool the middle finger for a while so there you have it.

omg lolz