Festool CT VA 20 Cyclone - Video

[Stone Message]

Hi Everyone

I have had the CT VA 20 on loan from Festool UK for about 10 days now and have just completed the video. I do want to check it out with the CT Sys and also do a demo using it with the HL 850 in due course.

Here is the video:


It performed far better than I expected given that the cyclone is quite stubby.

Peter

 

[GoingMyWay]

Brilliant! As always, an extremely thorough and well thought out review!

 

[six-point socket II]

Fantastic video as usual Peter! Thank you very much!

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[live4ever]

Great video, thanks!  I look forward to your experiences using it with the CT-SYS - that's going to be the make-or-break it for me. 

 

[HowardH]

as always, excellent review Peter! I had already made my mind up to get one Oct 1, when they are officially released here in the Colonies, but your review really cemented my decision.  i works great and fits right in. 

 

[Stone Message]

Hi Everyone,

I have had quite a few people asking me about the CT Sys and so I am making a video about using this cyclone with that baby extractor.

I can tell you now that it works very well indeed but the actual figures will be in the video.

Peter

 

[Roachmill]

Thanks Peter. I have a SYS permanently housed in the shed and a CT VA on the way, so I'm a tad relieved to hear you've had good results so far! Hoovering out the wee SYS bags is a royal PITA!

 

[Stone Message]

Thanks Peter. I have a SYS permanently housed in the shed and a CT VA on the way, so I'm a tad relieved to hear you've had good results so far! Hoovering out the wee SYS bags is a royal PITA!

I used to "Dyson" out my CT 26 bags in my early days as I had very little left over after buying all the kit.

Cyclones are the answer and I suspect that it will not be long before Festool produce a bigger drop box.

Peter

 

[Roachmill]

Thanks for the video Peter. I am now looking forward to emptying the SYS 98% less

 

[Stone Message]

Here is the CT Sys with the cyclone


Peter

 

[Dick Mahany]

Here is the CT Sys with the cyclone


Peter

Thank you Peter.  I was surprised that the results were so good.  I had expected a possible decrease in efficiency given the smaller motor and lower flow of the CT-Sys.  I have to wonder why Festool claim that it isn't suitable for use with the CT-Sys?

 

[Stone Message]

Hi Dick

I was surprised that the CT Sys did so well but my tests were quite crude and so the CT 26 may well yet have the edge.

Even so, the CTL Sys has done really well and I too do not know why Festool make that comment - I have not heard from Festool and so have no clue - perhaps I have missed something.

Peter

 

[sancho57]

I dunno Peter you used a expired container. It expired on Sept 2015 if I read that right. Look at the video at 4:24

hehehehehe [big grin]

 

[Stone Message]

I dunno Peter you used a expired container. It expired on Sept 2015 if I read that right. Look at the video at 4:24

hehehehehe [big grin]

Hi Ron,

That is a good point - I must try and remember not to eat any ice cream left in the bottom !

On a more serious note, someone has written to me and cautioned that there may be a super duper reason why this should not be used with the CTL Sys and that the poor little extractor could burn out or otherwise shuffle off this mortal coil.

Everyone should therefore understand that there may be risks involved.

It really would be great to get a Festool opinion as I cannot see anything wrong with the setup and it is particularly sweet as the CTL Sys has such a small bag.

Peter

 

[Createdincloverdale]

While using the CT-VA-20 that I just picked up on Oct. 1st, I had the end of the hose get covered for a few seconds and it completely sucked all the debris out of the cyclone bag and started sucking the bag into the cyclone. It seems there is nothing to equalize the pressure. All of the debris that the cyclone had worked so hard to separate ended up in my CT26. Not sure if you'd be willing to do a test on this to see if you can replicate the issue. Basically fill a bag with dust/debris, then put your hand over the vac hose and watch what happens! Not overly impressed with that. It does work well with just the container and no bag, but that defeats the purpose of being dust free.

 

[Mario Turcot]

[member=11196]Peter Parfitt[/member] it's now official, I HATE you  [wink]

I need to get a CT-SYS & a Cyclone. By the way, thank you for showing that they can be side by side. That will fit nicely under the Kapex stand  [big grin]

 

[Stone Message]

[member=11196]Peter Parfitt[/member] it's now official, I HATE you  [wink]

I need to get a CT-SYS & a Cyclone. By the way, thank you for showing that they can be side by side. That will fit nicely under the Kapex stand  [big grin]

What can I do to make it up to you?

I could sing !

Peter

 

[Michael Kellough]

While using the CT-VA-20 that I just picked up on Oct. 1st, I had the end of the hose get covered for a few seconds and it completely sucked all the debris out of the cyclone bag and started sucking the bag into the cyclone. It seems there is nothing to equalize the pressure. All of the debris that the cyclone had worked so hard to separate ended up in my CT26. Not sure if you'd be willing to do a test on this to see if you can replicate the issue. Basically fill a bag with dust/debris, then put your hand over the vac hose and watch what happens! Not overly impressed with that. It does work well with just the container and no bag, but that defeats the purpose of being dust free.

That’s a bummer! Is this something that can happen with the Ultimate Dust Deputy?

 

[RKA]

It shouldn't (but I don't use an Oneida DD).  They include a tube that attaches to the fitting near the vacuum port and runs behind the bag on the dust collection box to maintain a vacuum between the bag and the dust box. 

@6:45 in the video below, Peter shows this tube.

 

[Mario Turcot]

What can I do to make it up to you?

I could sing !

Peter

Surely NOT, perhaps a video about the VAC-SYS?