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Svar said:
Good point! I was working on a commercial operating a small turntable rig with a cordless drill. Worked fine until the battery died. Switched to a heavy duty Milwaukee 1/2” drill and the rpms varied wildly even though it was only a small constant load.
I think my old Metabo drill has evs. Guess I’ll have to make a screw adjustable collar rig for the trigger.
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Metabo BEV 1300-2 has two geared speed ranges, a thumb controlled speed pre-selection wheel, and a trigger lock without the un-needed hammer drill function @115v. Seems to be the last of it’s kind available in NA.
The drill at Max Tool
The neck is 43mm to matchmost all good drill stands although at Metabo’s US web site they say the neck is 1-11/16” while the accessory drill stand they suggest on the same page has a 43mm collar.
The drill at Max Tool
The neck is 43mm to match
Finally received my WABECO drill stand today for my Metabo drill. I got it set up, installed the tri-handle controls for the two axes and adjusted everything in about 30 minutes. I believe this is the stand I’ve been looking for! I’m selling my old drill press and this WABECO will do everything I need to do - both in the shop and on the job site. Shipping from Germany was expensive and slow but the packaging was perfect - no damage. 234 euros with shipping.
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At least 30#! With the Z-axis control can do some deep drilling outboard of the stand - haven’t tested but probably upwards of 400mm - looking to drill 6x6s! Been playing with it in the shop and it is very accurate. Also, horizontal boring is feasible - which may come in handy.Cheese said:
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Never used one for real, but saw and fondled them when they were still in the store under the Protool name. They're built like a rock, very sturdy. But there's nothing small about them. They are very big. A lot bigger than most of these stands you're used to from other brands. These are meant to drill holes in large construction beams.
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I'm still waiting for Bridge City Tools to come out with the DJ-2 system again. They were bought by Harvey tools and they are slowly bringing out most of the original line of tools. Not a drill press, but lightweight and will fit in a systainer. That should handle most of my drilling needs. It's the tool I wish I had and I should have bought years ago but balked at the price. Now I think the price is OK, for what it does.
Looks like the UJK stand is finally back (well, sort of - not in stock at Axminster yet):
https://www.axminster.co.uk/ujk-technology-drill-guide-with-10mm-chuck-106072
https://www.axminster.co.uk/ujk-technology-drill-guide-with-10mm-chuck-106072
I've stumbled upon a stand that looks similar to UJK's:https://www.sautershop.com/drill-stand-pivotable-with-drill-chuck-fo-scd3https://korean.alibaba.com/product-detail/Drill-Stand-with-Guide-for-Hand-60543980874.html
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That's a bummer - I had hoped that the latest UJK version was being produced in-house in Axminster (or wherever the U.K.-made UJK items are being produced). That changes my perception of the UJK version.
Since you've pointed out that the UJK version is a Taiwanese product this fact likely explains the long hiatus between Version 1 and Version 2 - they were relying on a third party half a world away to produce the product (with all the attendant problems this kind of reliance often creates).
It bears pointing out that the current UJK version has some unique features not evident in the no-frills version that you stumbled upon. Anodizing color choice aside, the current UJK version appears to have a much more thought-out interface (even from Version 1's) between the frame that holds the chuck and the guide rods it slides up and down on. The UJK-version utilizes "Oilite bronze bushes" (or "bushings" for those of us on the other side of the Atlantic) while, at least from what is evident in the images and description, the no-frills version does not:
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I would pass on the no-frills version for this reason alone. The lack of precision in this area is what plagues most drill stands of this type (and what likely makes the UJK version stand out from all the rest) - and based on another forum member's disappointing review I include the Kanzawa offerings in this category also.
Meanwhile, while both versions feature what appears to be the same "rubberised high friction pad" on the underside of the stand, their respective chuck capacity is different. The no-frills version features a 9.5mm chuck while the UJK version features a full 10mm chuck. That said, they both feature a Centrotec-compatible hex shank (which is the feature that confirmed for me at least the Tawianese provenance of the UJK-branded stand).
Speaking of which, here's the page on the manufacturer's (Fortune Extendables Corp.'s) website that details the no-frills version. Their description for the two versions they sell under their own name (one shorter, one taller) mentions the availability of different sized chucks which might explain why the UJK version has one size chuck and the no-frills version (at least the stock version) has another.
Other notable differences include the rubber protective guide rod covers (which the UJK sports while the no-frills does not) and, most curiously, the fact that the UJK version features four mounting slots designed to accept mounting of the UJK "Self Centring [sic] Vice [sic] for Drill Guide", a potentially game-changing accessory that, before now, I was totally unaware of:
A quick scan of the Fortune website produces what is no doubt the inspiration behind the UJK drill stand vise (which I'm going to guess is also being produced for UJK by Fortune).
As an aside, I also note that Fortune makes another cheaper-looking drill stand.
Wrapping it up, that the current UJK-branded drill-stand has no allowance for dust collection likely results from the fact that Axminster is relying on an existing design produced by a third party (who really missed the boat on this aspect). Too bad, really, especially since - as I've pointed out elsewhere in this thread - if the cheapest of the cheap can feature integrated dust collection:
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...then why can't what might arguably be 'the best of the best' also feature it?
[member=63423]AxminsterTools[/member] are you listening?
Finally, since the current version of the UJK drill stand is now available for sale on the Axminster site, I guess that means that it should be any day now that TSO gets them in stock. I wonder, [member=59331]TSO Products[/member], have you elected to offer the vise as well?
If the bushings work as advertised (to vastly improve this stand's precision over all other's in the marketplace) I might have to take the plunge and pick up both of these items. Having myself long considered a Wabeco drill stand I've decided recently (based upon a far-too-long term examination what I tend to require) that I will be best served by a far more portable and store'able 'mini' drill stand (the UJK-branded version being specifically what I'm after).
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Wow, somebody has done their homework @TinyShop! I was after the UJK one and tried to order one but was told they were only shipping them to UK mainland addresses as they were still under a 9 to 12 month quality review and was unable to pull the trigger due to living on a remote UK island. That sounded quite disparaging given the long wait for the version 2 guide.
On a whim I tried ordering again at the end of last week and it went through. Hopefully the sales person I was in touch with in the first instance had out of date info and they are actually happy with the V2 unit. If there's anything in particular you want to know about it let me know. It should be in my hands by mid week at the latest... hopefully!
On a whim I tried ordering again at the end of last week and it went through. Hopefully the sales person I was in touch with in the first instance had out of date info and they are actually happy with the V2 unit. If there's anything in particular you want to know about it let me know. It should be in my hands by mid week at the latest... hopefully!
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I'm hoping the self centring feature will be good enough for hogging out mortices. That'll be the first test but not entirely indicative of exact precision. Will update here once I've had a chance to play with it. I'll have a think about a way of proving how precise it actually is while I wait for those three magic words: "out", "for" and "delivery"TinyShop said:
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T said:
Similar looking drill stands have been manufactured all over the world for several decades. This one is only vaguely similar to the Axminster version which is the best I’ve seen so far. I found no indication of where the Axminster stand is made. Even so, the Axminster is still not in the same league as the Wabeco or Duss drill stands.
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Michael - I think that based solely on the fact that both stands feature a Centrotec-compatible hex shank, a wildly specific and unique feature, it's obvious that the UJK stand is produced by the manufacturer I specified. Of course, the identical castings give this away too. And, I think we all agree as well that these, what I'm calling 'mini' drill stands, are not in the same category as a benchtop stand from Wabeco, etc. That's not in debate. But for those of us seeking an easily transportable and store'able solution to common tasks that might be met by the UJK-version, I think we're all hoping that it's all its cracked up to be.
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Missed the fact that the cheap version and the UJK version both have Centrotec shanks but I did see indications that Fortune is a Korean company. Consumer Reports gives the Korean made Genesis car it’s highest ratings. On the other hand, the base castings look quite different to me and you noted the difference in the yokes.
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Quoting [member=71644]Tiny[/member] Shop :
Finally, since the current version of the UJK drill stand is now available for sale on the Axminster site, I guess that means that it should be any day now that TSO gets them in stock. I wonder, [member=59331]TSO Products[/member], have you elected to offer the vise as well?
TSO has more than "elected" - we have been in regular contact on this Drill Guide project ever since AXMINSTER pulled the earlier version off the market. We worked with them on some market research for this design and see they have taken the US feedback into account.. We should give Axminster credit for electing on a slow roll-out on a regional (UK) scale for starters until the tool has shown it is up to expectation and justifies ramping up production once proven in the field.
AXMINSTER has known from the beginning of this second generation Drill Guide project that TSO will stock in depth. Our website has a signup provisions for th Drill Guide to be notified when in stock:
https://tsoproducts.com/tools-equipment/ujk-technology-drill-guide/
The product page image shows the old version and old price - will update when price is available.
Hans and Eric
Finally, since the current version of the UJK drill stand is now available for sale on the Axminster site, I guess that means that it should be any day now that TSO gets them in stock. I wonder, [member=59331]TSO Products[/member], have you elected to offer the vise as well?
TSO has more than "elected" - we have been in regular contact on this Drill Guide project ever since AXMINSTER pulled the earlier version off the market. We worked with them on some market research for this design and see they have taken the US feedback into account.. We should give Axminster credit for electing on a slow roll-out on a regional (UK) scale for starters until the tool has shown it is up to expectation and justifies ramping up production once proven in the field.
AXMINSTER has known from the beginning of this second generation Drill Guide project that TSO will stock in depth. Our website has a signup provisions for th Drill Guide to be notified when in stock:
https://tsoproducts.com/tools-equipment/ujk-technology-drill-guide/
The product page image shows the old version and old price - will update when price is available.
Hans and Eric
[member=61691]TSO_Products[/member] - I think you may have misunderstood. Please reread the quote of mine that you posted. I was asking specifically about the self-centering vise that is designed to fit the drill guide/stand. Obviously, you're going to stock the drill guide/stand (I've been signed up on that list forever). I just want to know about the vise. 
