Festool Home products

[RC]

Miele is highly regarded here as well and Bosch/Electrolux (which are the same btw. just different badging like VW, Seat and Audi) and especially in their outrageously expensive Professional line you can still get dishwashers that run a full cycle in 30min and don't try to be tree huggers with water consuption and actually clean the dishes. Also their fridge / freezer combos have separate compressors for the fridge and freezer (at least the top models) which is lightyears ahead of anything from Elux (our freezer stutters and dips in temp when I put a warm pot of soup in the Elux fridge I have [mad] -> Have to put superpower (coolmatic & frostmatic) on to get back up from that slump - the darn thing doesn't recover on its own)

Gaggenau is a totally different story altogether - their stuff is top notch and kinda in between a professional restaurant gear and a high-end home kitchen. If you like the production sort of look and have way too much dosh to throw at your kitchen go Gaggenau  [cool]

If I had the money to redo our kitchen I would throw out every Bosch and Electrolux appliance there and replace them with Miele Professional stuff. But while waiting for that Lottery win I'll just have to settle for getting a repairman in every year to fix the next broken thing in the kitchen  [mad]

In the 9 years we have had our current kitchen
- the dishwasher has had a broken water pump
- all plastic parts of the dishwasher have disintegrated with detergents and needed replacement in it (rollers, water concuits for top basket)
- one fridge/freezer combo a broken compressor
- one induction hotplate a broken transformer
- one oven front window got smashed due to it falling down on the floor by itself (a design failure of just friction fit stoppers keeping the glass in place in vertical dadoes)
- one oven heating element catching fire due to short circuit and
- the clothe dryer a blocked water pump due to lint getting through the filters to block it... Talk about Bosch/Electrolux quality - NOT!

And only two of these were covered with warranty  [censored]

 

[Walk On Wood]

I agree the miele vacuums are great never had any issues with ours and my wife uses it daily for dog hair

Toby where do you get 3M bags for the vac? I'd like to try them

We've also got a washer/dryer and dishwasher love all three and have them spec'd in a new house
Can't say enough good about them like festools not cheap but worth the price

I buy them on Amazon.  Apparently prices have gone up since i last bought (I bought 200 bags about a year and a half ago) This is the best deal i saw with a quick search http://www.amazon.com/Miele-FJM-Filtration-Canister-Filtrete/dp/B008GRCOZ8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1405628549&sr=8-3&keywords=miele+fjm+vacuum+bags

 

[Kev]

Dyson currently OWNS the high end home vacuum market. It would be really difficult for Festool to come out with a product that would significantly improve on the Dysons.

Dyson vacs are horribly noisy and last about 5 minutes longer than their warranty. We'll be going to something else next (after several Dysons) ... I still like their little cordless job, but the bigger things are tomorrow's junk.

... and how hard is is to engineer a reasonably quiet domestic vacuum? [eek] I think the Dyson has probably damaged my wife's hearing!

 

[fdengel]

My mother has been using an old shop vac to sweep the floor at home, after having gone through a number of the homeowner-type vacs designed for pets (two dogs) and having the motors basically burn out trying to deal with the dog fur getting picked up.

I've never cared much for the homeowner vacs anyway.  I'd rather use a shop vac (or even better a Festool CT) when I need to run one.  Now that the dogs have pressed the issue, I think she is finally catching up with that.

 

[hrrb]

+1 for Miele in general.

We have Miele oven, dishwasher, washing machine and tumble dryer.

We started with the washing machine and tumble dryer 10 years ago and we've never regretted it. We have 3 young boys so we use the washing machine daily. Top quality!
The oven was bought 5 years ago. Top quality!
The dishwasher was bought last year. Top quality! (We had a Siemens before that...it died after approx. 6 years.)

We've had 2 Siemens vacuum cleaners (won tests at the time we bought them). They died too soon.
Then my wife bought an Electrolux (also model of the year at the time)...never liked it! The bags are laughably small...and it's beginning to fall apart. Next time I'll buy a Miele vacuum cleaner as I've only heard good about their vacuum cleaners.

And the same goes for the fridge, freezer and cooking plate (is it called a cooking plate?)...next time = MIELE!

30 yrs ago I got educated as electrician and repaired quite a number of kitchen and household appliances. Miele was at the time the brand with fewest repairs (consumer market).

I can only recommend that brand.

Power tools = Festool
Household appliances = Miele ;-)

Have a nice summer.
Kind regards
Henrik

 

[rizzoa13]

Also their fridge / freezer combos have separate compressors for the fridge and freezer (at least the top models) which is lightyears ahead of anything from Elux (our freezer stutters and dips in temp when I put a warm pot of soup in the Elux fridge I have [mad] -> Have to put superpower (coolmatic & frostmatic) on to get back up from that slump - the darn thing doesn't recover on its own)

We recently looked at the Miele and Gaggenau counter depth fridges and were leaning towards the Gaggenau until we actually saw it in person. While it is so far ahead of any other columns in quality the size of the shelves is unrealistic. I dont care if you just keep a 6-pack in there its not big enough. Because they make these fridges with tiny shelves on the back side of the door you get extremely shallow normal shelves. 

We didn't want to be those people that got a Sub-zero but because of the glass door there isn't a shelf on the backside of the door, and the regular shelves are still a great depth. Even beyond that the Sub-zero has build quality that you'd expect in the aerospace industry, just amazing. I obviously can't say enough good about it.

 

[Kev]

While we're on the topic of cookers, I'll raise a big negative for ILVE. Over priced and poorly designed ... just cosmetically beautiful.