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Tom Bellemare said:
Daum. I can buy a lot of tape measures for 500 bennys.
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When I have a job going, someone always needs to "use my tape" or "borrow my screwdriver"/"borrow my Klein's"...
That's what the big box tapes/crap stuff are good for in my opinion. If I'm running several people on a job, I always want them to finish within my (typically Very tight) timeframe. I don't want to antagonize anyone, so I want to give them what they need or want at every moment. That way, they have no excuses and we can get stuff done.
Depending on the situation, I try to keep a couple of the "throwaways" on the site and a few in the car/truck. I also don't want to run out of super cheap tapes OR pencils. It doesn't seem to matter, they walk off...
The person(s) either running the job or doing their own quality work, IMHO, deserve the right tools that they don't loan easily. Those are the tools I promote.
Tom
That's what the big box tapes/crap stuff are good for in my opinion. If I'm running several people on a job, I always want them to finish within my (typically Very tight) timeframe. I don't want to antagonize anyone, so I want to give them what they need or want at every moment. That way, they have no excuses and we can get stuff done.
Depending on the situation, I try to keep a couple of the "throwaways" on the site and a few in the car/truck. I also don't want to run out of super cheap tapes OR pencils. It doesn't seem to matter, they walk off...
The person(s) either running the job or doing their own quality work, IMHO, deserve the right tools that they don't loan easily. Those are the tools I promote.
Tom
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I never said it wasn't nice. Is it going to measure the board
and synch with my kapex lasers and cut trim? That way
I can kick back, have a smoke and drink a margarita?
If so I'm in. [big grin]
and synch with my kapex lasers and cut trim? That way
I can kick back, have a smoke and drink a margarita?
If so I'm in. [big grin]
Wood_Junkie said:
I don't know what is common in US, but here in Europe those little "fan products" are actually business gifts that you get free when you (or more often your employer) buys something bigger. Every item that a company has on its list of products costs surprisingly much. That cost is almost independent on the price of the product and much higher for Festool than Walmart. It could be unprofitable for Festool to sell those measuring tapes even for 25$. I suppose they really don't want to sell much measuring tapes or umbrellas, let's say 10 000 x amount of Kapexes, and take a risk to overload warranty department etc.
IMHO, considering Festool pricing (sorry EcoFurniture), we should not make almost any conclusions of price/value or quality from business gifts that also can be bought. ... or do you make bulldozer purchase decisions based on these http://www.cat.com/gifts-and-apparel [smile] ?
Off-topic:
In general, I think (at least here in EU) Festool fills the gap between brands like Hilti and DeWalt. More consumer oriented and innovative than Hilti but better quality than DeWalt. Quality is considered here more from Hilti's point of view (selling drilling capacity instead of a drill machine). When possible, it is good to compare Festool products to both sides. Instead of asking the common "is it really worth of extra price?", one should also find a product that is more expensive and compare from both sides. In many cases Festool product is a golden mean. Of course there are Festool products that are more or less the best and most expensive the money can buy, but even then one can usually imagine an alternative solution (combination of several machines/services) that is an answer to the same need.
This is where it gets really gray, vertical price fixing is in fact a violation yet exceptions were made to overrule parts of the Sherman anti trust act to allow resale price maintenance which was a system that controlled price floors and ceiling through lines of distribution.
Tom, I have a PD40 and use it all the time, great piece, but it does not replace a tape measure in many applications. I used it a few weeks ago to lay a pile of floor joists in a trapezoidal room. I used it to measure each joist and every cut was dead accurate, great for when you have to frame a floor yourself. I also use it for estimates and running pipe.
Sometimes I hold a clipboard up for the laser. [laughing] Its not that useful for jobs like that and it can be pesky on reflective surfaces.
I too have a Laser tape measurer. It's a Bosch. I do a lot of field measuring for casework/millwork and I've had this laser for over a year now. I can't explain how much time it has saved me and how accurate it is. I still use a regular tape all the time but the laser works great for wall to wall measurements and over long distances. If the dimension I need it not that important I can use it for dimensions that don't go wall to wall as well by just lining up the back of the laser with the inside of a wall.
The business we get is 100% commercial so by the time I go measure only metal studs are up. I don't know about other brands but bosch makes a accessory that has a magnet on it so you can attach it to a stud and pull your measurement that way. I highly recommend laser tapes for anyone that works in construction. Be aware, you will get made fun of a lot for using it. =)
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The business we get is 100% commercial so by the time I go measure only metal studs are up. I don't know about other brands but bosch makes a accessory that has a magnet on it so you can attach it to a stud and pull your measurement that way. I highly recommend laser tapes for anyone that works in construction. Be aware, you will get made fun of a lot for using it. =)
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Really? I work on commercial sites too and of all my tools the laser has probably gotten the most positive attention. Clients are impressed and people that have never seen one flock to it like files around a pile of dung.
On of my favorite times I had a meeting with a client in a condo and I was taking measurements with my laser standing in nearly then same place. Then the kitchen guy shows up and begins to run around like a chicken with his tape measure. He saw my laser and said "gee that's really something" my response was "well I'm just too damn old to run around with a tape anymore" (the guy was easily 20 years older then myself).
Inner10 said:
Yeah, I get those responses a lot too. Just yesterday while I was measuring the contractor asked me to pull some measurements for him because he was also impressed.
When I say get made fun of, it's in a joking way. They all really like it but they will tease.
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