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Hi Everyone

Festool invited me to take a look at a pre-production model of the Sysrock and as I went along I did some filming. I asked if I could release a video about the radio and they said yes.

We know from the other thread that the radio is FM only, has no integral battery and does not have a USB charging socket. However, the sound quality is excellent, it is compact and appears tough enough. If you have Festool rechargeable tools then this seems like a good idea. RRP in UK is expected to be about £110. I think that a Euro price is visible on the Festool web site.

Here is the link:



I will return to give a more detailed account of the pros and cons later this morning.

Peter
 
Nice video Peter, I was expecting it to have an internal battery like the syslight, thats' what i use 90% of the time and switch to mains or tool battery only for emergency. It makes the price quite hard to swallow, along with other missing features.
Does it work on all voltage batteries or only 18v? I think i saw a TXS battery on it in a pic though.
 
Timtool said:
Nice video Peter, I was expecting it to have an internal battery like the syslight, thats' what i use 90% of the time and switch to mains or tool battery only for emergency. It makes the price quite hard to swallow, along with other missing features.
Does it work on all voltage batteries or only 18v? I think i saw a TXS battery on it in a pic though.

Hi Tim

Yes, it will work across the range of system batteries. I have 15v and 18v batteries and they worked fine.

I did ask Festool about the lack of internal battery and the response was that there was not enough room for the 6 (I think) cells to make up 18v.

Peter
 
I said that I would post a longer piece about the Sysrock.

First of all the one that I have had was a pre production model but it was a pretty mature version of what I am sure will be produced soon - there were no wires hanging out and the screws keeping it together did not look as though they had be touched after initial assembly.

Good Points:

The radio is compact (same form factor as the Syslite) and quite heavy so it will sit all day at the end of a bench or tucked out of the way somewhere.

The look and feel is typical Festool - a nice simple and logical layout and nothing gimmicky.

The sound quality is very good indeed but I realise that this is hugely subjective and my ears are pretty shot up (literally). I am sorry that I was unable to play long excerpts of radio stations or my iPhone music but some of the broadcasting and performance rights people can be very picky with regular YouTube creators.

Playing music from the smartphone is very easy and I would rather get glue/plaster/chicken sh*t on the Sysrock controls than on my iPhone.

You can receive calls whilst the Bluetooth source is selected which is probably only useful if you are covered in glue etc as I would rather use my phone than let the plumber know that Norm just called !

The Sysrock will take any of the Festool system batteries and there is a battery fuel gauge in the top right of the display.

Bad Points:

I think that many people would prefer to have seen DAB included. The switching over to DAB is not as far forward as we had hoped and there is no country that I know of that has actually switched yet. I think the most likely first will be Norway doing a partial switch in 2017 but I am happy to be corrected on that. I love DAB but that is because there are particular stations or programmes there that I cannot get anywhere else. This means that I actually want to listen to the content rather than have it as background noise (amongst the other noise) as I work. So, perhaps this is not a huge big deal at the moment. Also, with a smartphone you can stream anything you like or, as I do, listen to a podcast.

There is no internal battery. A pity as it could then be used as is and one would imagine it could be charged and listened to at the same time. I put this point to Festool who told me that there was insufficient room for the 5? cells required, the extra charging circuitry and the loss of free space inside would reduce the sound quality. They did not want the overall size to go beyond what they have created.

There is no USB charging socket. Some may see this as important but I can plug my phone into the car or a £3 charger I bought from ebay.

Summary:

I think that we can get carried away with the importance of DAB but I do understand people favouring it. I certainly made sure my new car had a DAB radio. I have a growing collection of podcasts and listen to these quite a bit if it is quiet enough and streaming is another way around the problem.

There was a bit of debate about being made in China. Please do not resurrect it here on this thread but...

I did not even look to see where it was made until I saw what was being said. Without knowing where it had been made I had concluded that this was another piece of high quality kit produced in the Festool German factory. It is better to keep an open mind until you have at least got one in your hands.

I think Festool will get their investment back and I hope that in 5 years time, as circuit boards and batteries get smaller, that they can upgrade the Sysrock to include DAB, an internal battery and USB port all within the same form factor and with the same super sound quality.

Peter
 
Hej Peter

Thanks for the doing the Video. I like that little radio, it's the right size, I have my music on the iPhone, and wouldn't likely use  DAB though we have it . I could just use internet radio instead.

Personally I don't listen to much music when I work. I've played music myself for many years (classical piano), and generally enjoy working in silence as a result, but as a speciel treat I listen to some old Jazz while working once every two weeks... Too much music though overburdens my auditory senses un-necessarily. I've learned that  life is interesting even without a soundtrack..
 
Its funny, I have just come back from packing it all back in the box ready for collection and then thought that it is actually quite a nice little radio really.

Peter
 
Hi Peter,

Here's a first, you've reviewed a Festool product and I don't want a bar of it! [smile]

I did just delete everything I typed [sad] plenty of negative stuff has been said about the Sysrock in other threads!

To be simply honest .. in my thinking a portable radio that is not cheap, doesn't offer DAB and doesn't have onboard power is a mistake.

We wouldn't buy a Festool tracksaw without depth adjustment. I'd say we wouldn't buy a Festool DC without variable suction, but that horse has bolted [big grin]

Right now I do feel like running about shouting "I'M CURED, I'M CURED" ... that'll probably last about as long as it takes you to put out your next review [wink]

For those wanting job site DAB, possibly look into the new Hitachi job site radio - it'll work nicely with the rest of your Festool colour scheme!
https://sydneytools.com.au/hitachi-ur18dsdl-14-4v-18v-li-ion-cordless-ac-digital-bluetooth-radio
 
Nice video as usual, Peter.

Maybe it'll come as a set... the Sys-Rock-n-Roll.  [big grin]

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Shane Holland said:
Nice video as usual, Peter.

Maybe it'll come as a set... the Sys-Rock-n-Roll.  [big grin]

[blink] Oh my, my, my, my .....................................  ::)

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Seth
 
Shane Holland said:
Nice video as usual, Peter.

Maybe it'll come as a set... the Sys-Rock-n-Roll.  [big grin]

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Hi Shane

You might be able to sell a couple of those !

Peter
 
Hi
Please read the information below

Thank you for the feedback regarding DAB+ on the first launch of our new SYSROCK radio. We wanted to explain a little to why DAB+ is currently not on this launch product and hopefully answer some of your questions.

There are significant international differences regarding DAB-coverage. That’s why most DAB+ devices are equipped with a FM-Tuner as an alternative option. Our SYSROCK would have needed a hybrid antenna, so with the short antenna design this would have been a compromise and could have resulted in possible reception problems. We came to the decision that our first version of the SYSROCK will be a FM-Radio with Bluetooth function to cover the needs of all our international customers. We are aware that DAB+ may gain more relevance within the next few years, hence the SYSROCK´s concept is open for a follow-up version with DAB+ at a later date.

We hope that answers some of the questions that you have been asking us. We really do value your comments and feedback!

From Festool
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Phil
 
[member=11196]Peter Parfitt[/member]

Thanks for another video!!!!!
Any rough ideas of runtime on the batteries. I know any info in this will be vague, but just an idea of how long certain batteries lasted would be nice.

Sadly I think the lack of internal battery makes this a miss at over £100. But maybe the quality of the sound will convince me.
 
mrB said:
[member=11196]Peter Parfitt[/member]

Thanks for another video!!!!!
Any rough ideas of runtime on the batteries. I know any info in this will be vague, but just an idea of how long certain batteries lasted would be nice.

Sadly I think the lack of internal battery makes this a miss at over £100. But maybe the quality of the sound will convince me.

With a bit of luck it will be given away for free as a deal with some tools like Bosch does, that's how i got my €100 Bosch radio. It's intentionally overpriced to make the deal look better, and if some people actually buy it for €100 then it's jackpot anyway.
 
mrB said:
[member=11196]Peter Parfitt[/member]

Thanks for another video!!!!!
Any rough ideas of runtime on the batteries. I know any info in this will be vague, but just an idea of how long certain batteries lasted would be nice.

Sadly I think the lack of internal battery makes this a miss at over £100. But maybe the quality of the sound will convince me.

I have not tried a run down test at all. I used my one and only 15 v battery through the majority of the time that I was using the Sysrock and would guess that covered about 8 hours of total radio or iPhone usage over about 9 days. The number of bars on that battery did not change. I did for a brief while try an 18v battery which may also have appeared in the video.

I will try and update this with more precise timings.

Peter
 
Thanks peter.

A rough idea was all I wanted. 8hrs of use with the battery charge indicator not dropping in that time seems excellent.

I assume that one can not switch from mains to battery power without the unit turning off. As like the syslite, the power chord seems to connect underneath the battery.
 
mrB said:
Thanks peter.

A rough idea was all I wanted. 8hrs of use with the battery charge indicator not dropping in that time seems excellent.

I assume that one can not switch from mains to battery power without the unit turning off. As like the syslite, the power chord seems to connect underneath the battery.

Yes, the power cord has to be removed before a battery can be connected.

Peter
 
An update on battery usage...

Yesterday afternoon I fully charged an 18v battery and at 1645 hrs connected it to the Sysrock and switched it on tuned into BBC Radio 2 (a mainly music station). I set the volume at about 40% which is the loudest that I woud want if I were in the workshop. I just went across to the workshop and the radio is still going strong and it is on 1 bar of battery.

I do not know if that 1 bar has just occurred or whether it is about to go to zero bar. However, it has been on non stop overnight for 15 hours and brilliant news - it seems to have kept next door's cat off the driveway so no sh*t shovel today !

I will leave the radio on and try and note when it fades away.

Peter
 
Thanks for review.

Sound quality is not really discussed which for me is the most important thing if I'm paying over a £100 for a portable speaker. Would be nice to compare it against a few similar priced Bluetooth speakers. If it compares well, then the fact that it is rugged and takes Festool batteries is a plus.

Festool has missed an opportunity to add a USB charging port - that is standard on Bluetooth speakers like this. DAB I'm not fussed about. You mention you could buy and USB adapter for a few quid - don't think that's the point - it's the portability that's the attraction and a 5Ah battery is at least two charges of an iPhone.

Can you still use the hanging bracket when a battery is attached - it looks like you can't which is a shame?

Thanks!
 
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