Festool version of a Multimaster

[Peterm]

I just thought of this one today when I was using my Multimaster to plunge-cut into a ceiing (original Victorian ceiling - lath & plaster & horsehair & whatever mud & soot & sh*t they happened to have around that day...) and I was thinking, I wish Festool would do something like this, then at least it would have decent dust extraction and I wouldn't be breathing & swallowing and blinking away all that plaster & horsehair & mud etc....

Yes, I know the cost of the Festool blades would make Fein seem cheap in comparison, but it's work so I bill them on as a consumable, and anyway, if you need it, you need it, right?

So there you go. A black & green Multimaster please. Oh yeah, and an impact driver would be good. And a combi drill.

Please?

Cheers, Pete.

 

[peter halle]

I don't know about the price of Fein consumables in your neck of The world, but they are in my opinion ridiculous versus Festool consumables here. I never throw away a Fein blade. I eventually use them for something.

Peter

 

[bruegf]

I just had to replace a Fein segmented blade after one cut.  It snapped when I dropped my hand an imperceptible amount in the middle of a cut.  Cost of blade and shipping was almost $50.  That's definitely in Festool altitude as far as I'm concerned.

Too bad somebody doesn't make a after-market replacement blade that's priced more reasonably.

Fred

 

[sw1211]

Fred, Here you go..http://www.multiblades.com/

 

[jakiiski]

Yep, Fein stuff is expensive! However, the new version of the Multimaster should actually have an improved dust removal, it's got a connection to a vacuum at least?

 

[Peterm]

Yep, Fein stuff is expensive! However, the new version of the Multimaster should actually have an improved dust removal, it's got a connection to a vacuum at least?

As far as I know, the latest version (at least here in the UK) has the familiar clunky plastic add-on extractor-connection that only really works when you're sanding, not when you're sawing. So yep, room for improvement, I think.

Cheers, Pete.

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

Peterm, if you had the Fein Supercut I'd recommend their dust extraction attachment, part number 92602075018. I think it's designed for renewing mortar or caulk joints in conjunction with a diamond blade, but I often use if for cutting sheetrock with a wood blade, it really kicks butt when used with my CT22! Once you get used to how to best position the Supercut, you can cut huge amounts of sheetrock in place without any airborne dust, VERY handy when you're doing a quick in-out job and you don't want to tent-off your working space for just a few quick cuts. Right now I'm working on acquiring a right-angle adapter for the hose so it's more inline with the tool body.

Steve-Co, thanks so much for the link! I'm almost out of my Supercut blades, it's great to know there's an economical option out there!

 

[dirtydeeds]

i chucked the dust extraction thing away unused, its a (noisy) saw and nothing else to me

i say nothing, but theres nothing else that does the job so well for renovation work

the thing you show tom is interesting but as your comments make clear it is a bit bulky

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

i chucked the dust extraction thing away unused, its a (noisy) saw and nothing else to me

i say nothing, but theres nothing else that does the job so well for renovation work

the thing you show tom is interesting but as your comments make clear it is a bit bulky

Hi DD! Overall, the extractor itself isn't terribly bulky, but yeah as I have it set up right now the extraction hose is pretty ungainly. If I could put a 90 degree elbow on it the D27 hose should hug the upper body of the saw, making it much easier to use.

I too would love to see Festool take a crack at it, specifically a cutting tool like the Supercut, since they already have the DX93. What would be nice would be a cutting tool roughly the same size as the DX93, with the dust extraction port in the rear (as per the DX93), a Plug-It cord, and an integrated extraction hood. This hood could be fixed like my setup (which works quite well!), or I suppose they could do some sort of retractable shroud or flexible rubber boot that fit over the blade, but that would probably overly complicated..... Anyways, it'll probably never be produced, but it's fun to think about, right? 

 

[Peterm]

Tom, thanks, I've seen the adapter for the Supercut - but IMO this is exactly the kind of clunky afterthought/add-on that Festool should/would avoid.

What would be nice would be a cutting tool roughly the same size as the DX93, with the dust extraction port in the rear (as per the DX93), a Plug-It cord, and an integrated extraction hood.

That's it, exactly what I had in mind - nothing wrong with having elegance and efficiency in an industrial tool...

Anyways, it'll probably never be produced, but it's fun to think about, right? 

Hey, that's what wish-lists are for

Cheers., Pete

 

[dirtydeeds]

tom i agree with much of what you and peterm have to say

i also like to see a tool (your photo) thats been given a lot of use and abuse

out of curiosity why did you go for the supercut, i bought the multimaster and have never had it complain at the abuse ive given it, except the head can get rather hot to  the touch

in my case it was funds the multimaster came in at under 200 quid the supercut was nearly twice that

if you double the figures it will give you a rough us dollar cost

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

tom i agree with much of what you and peterm have to say

i also like to see a tool (your photo) thats been given a lot of use and abuse

out of curiosity why did you go for the supercut, i bought the multimaster and have never had it complain at the abuse ive given it, except the head can get rather hot to  the touch

in my case it was funds the multimaster came in at under 200 quid the supercut was nearly twice that

if you double the figures it will give you a rough us dollar cost

Hi DD! I bought the Supercut for a number of reasons. First, I like how the blade arbor has a positive, mechanical connection to the shaft on the Supercut, versus the original Multimaster which relied on friction (this seems to have been addressed with the newer Multimaster, at least to some degree). Second, the Supercut is significantly more powerful than the Multimaster. Compared to the original, the Supercut has nearly double the wattage, which I figured meant that under the same load the motor would last longer. Third, it seemed like the Multimaster was oriented more for homeowners and hobbiests, whereas the Supercut seemed to have a greater variety of attachments and beefier accessories, plus through the use of an adapter I can still use all of the Multimaster accessories, whereas there is no adapter to use Supercut accessories on the Multimaster. As for the cost, I think I bought my Supercut FSC2.0 Carpenter Kit for roughly $750, but remember that kit comes with 10 blades(!). I figured that was approximately how much it would cost for me to purchase a Multimaster and all of those blades individually, so it just made sense to put up more money up front and get the more powerful machine. Anyways, that's how it worked out for me, but everybody has different needs and situations.  8)

 

[ericbuggeln]

I have the newer Fein Multimaster with all the bells and whistles and the dust collection is not nearly as good as Festool, but it will hook up to the D27 hose.  If you have the DX 93 sander from Festool then you'll never use it.  So far I have only used the blade it came with and the three others I have had to buy.  Fortunately it seems like every time I use it there is no other tool that can do what it does.  It is a must have in the truck/van if you do home remodeling, but it's Achilles heel in my opinion are the blades which are too pricey for there extremely lack - luster performance.  I have checked out the above site that Steve- co talks of and will definitely pull the trigger after this blade goes.  I will report back when this happens, problem is last time it happened the Woodcraft was too close ???

I have heard good things about this guy on jlc, but never talked to anyone about it.  If anyone knows, is he quick with shipping?  Seems like something I would stock if it were cheaper.  Thanks Eric

 

[erikfsn]

I have had the supercut for about a year now. My work is remodeling and I find I use it
quite often and am so glad I got it. So well made and it saves me some time and difficulty
regularly.

Since getting into Festool I have become spoiled by relatively dust-free work, so I'm happy
to hear there's a dust extraction attachment for it. I'm ordering one as soon as I finish this post.

Erik

 

[jaegerhund]

I have heard good things about this guy on jlc, but never talked to anyone about it.  If anyone knows, is he quick with shipping?  Seems like something I would stock if it were cheaper.  Thanks Eric

I ordered a blade from his site 2 days ago and he shipped within 24 hours --- he claims I should get the blade within 3 days of the ship date.  Hope this helps, Eric.  ( Had to make sure I responded to the right Eric/Erik  )

Justin

 

[ericbuggeln]

Jager, that sounds very promising, let us know how it goes.  His videos are impressive, thanks Eric

 

[jaegerhund]

Jager, that sounds very promising, let us know how it goes.  His videos are impressive, thanks Eric

We'll do!.

Justin

 

[tallgrass]

i have the supercut and the power difference  between it and the multicut is huge.....there is more than a 2 fold power increase of power, when you take into account the there is about the same mechinical loss for both machines. this means that practically all the extra power goes into cutting, yielding truly useful cutting power. friends who have tried it who have the multicut are angry that they have the multi cut and wish they had bought the supercut. it is more expensive but worth every penny.

 

[jaegerhund]

Just wanted to let Eric and anyone who is interested know that I received the blade from multiblades.com.  It arrived within 3 working days via USPS.  The blade seems to be of higher quality than the Fein blades (it seems more substantial anyway -- more solid) , it fits the multimaster very well with little "freeplay" , and it seems to cut just fine.  Multiblades.com does not offer segmented blades or bi-metal blades-- mostly just flush cut type blades.  Also, I know Albert Constan at mutliblades.com makes an adapter for the multimaster to allow the usage of Supercut blades and such -----but he doesn't have it listed on his website.

Justin

 

[Michael Kellough]

 Also, I know Albert Constan at mutliblades.com makes an adapter for the multimaster to allow the usage of Supercut blades and such -----but he doesn't have it listed on his website.

Justin

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