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[GoingMyWay]

Have to look into the bit holding issue you mentioned.

The screw falling off the bit issue seems to have gone away when I added the Bosch magnetic bit holder.  I guess that could cause a problem if you're in a really tight space and don't have the extra room for that bit holder.  I had thought you could just buy the individual bits that are magnetized, but maybe it's only the bit holders that are magnetic???

Thank you for the photos.  The Bosch 12V Flexiclick has quickly become my most reached for drill.  It is more powerful than I had expected and an all around excellent tool for its size.  Can't beat it for the price.  I do like my T18 and have never even held a CXS, but for 85% of what I typically do, the Flexiclick is hard to beat. 

You're welcome.  The Flexiclick is a very versatile tool and a good value.  I recommended it for a Christmas present for someone who was looking for their first drill.  I kinda just personally expected it to feel a little better in my hand since it's a smaller form factor than my Makita 18v drill, but it's certainly fine enough - just like holding any other drill more or less.  I'm just nit picking.

 

[DIY WoodWerx]

Does the Festool Centrotec adapter and Centrotec Chuck fit the Bosch FlexiClick drill?

 

[GoingMyWay]

The Centrotec chuck will not fit onto the Bosch Flexiclick.  I haven't tried this, but I believe the Centrotec bit holder should fit into the Bosch as it's just a standard 1/4" hex, but I don't see the point since it won't positively engage the detent and will fall out when turned vertically.

 

[DIY WoodWerx]

The Centrotec chuck will not fit onto the Bosch Flexiclick.  I haven't tried this, but I believe the Centrotec bit holder should fit into the Bosch as it's just a standard 1/4" hex, but I don't see the point since it won't positively engage the detent and will fall out when turned vertically.

My plan was get the Flexiclick and get some centrotec bits.  Thanks for the quick reply.  I was interested in the centrotec bits after reading they were high quality and long lasting.  To bad the CXS doesn’t have an offset chuck option.

 

[GoingMyWay]

Turns out I was slightly mistaken about the bit holder falling out when turned vertically.  The fit is tight enough that the hex shank will stay in with or without the locking bit chuck (see attachments).  It still might pull out if you have a very tight fitting screw head though.

I just discovered that you could buy this Centrotec adapter that you could screw into the Bosch's jacob's chuck so you could use the Centrotec chuck:https://www.festoolproducts.com/festool-496450-keyless-chuck-centrotec-adapter.html.  This of course takes away from the sleek form factor when trying to get into tight spaces however.

 

[DIY WoodWerx]

Turns out I was slightly mistaken about the bit holder falling out when turned vertically.  The fit is tight enough that the hex shank will stay in with or without the locking bit chuck (see attachments).  It still might pull out if you have a very tight fitting screw head though.

I just discovered that you could buy this Centrotec adapter that you could screw into the Bosch's jacob's chuck so you could use the Centrotec chuck:https://www.festoolproducts.com/festool-496450-keyless-chuck-centrotec-adapter.html.  This of course takes away from the sleek form factor when trying to get into tight spaces however.

I'll check out that adapter for the centrotec.  Maybe someone has a video or review out there of it on the Bosch Flexiclick.

Thanks for the followup reviews and pics.  Very helpful

 

[GoingMyWay]

I just missed out on buying the refurbished MFT/3 that just came up.  I was in the process of checking out but I made a mistake in the Cardholder name field so it got rejected and I had to re-enter that information.  By the time I had done that it had sold out.  I don't know if my mistake actually cost me the purchase or not.

I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad.  The final price with tax was going to be $572.40.  I know a lot of people have complaints about the stability of the MFT and its ability to make square cuts.  I've always wanted one since it seems like it would make things easier than the current setup of a custom top made with the Parf Guide System that I'm using.

I kinda hesitated in making the purchase because it's pretty expensive and it's gonna be pretty hard to hide from my wife, unlike just another systainer.

 

[live4ever]

I just missed out on buying the refurbished MFT/3 that just came up.  I was in the process of checking out but I made a mistake in the Cardholder name field so it got rejected and I had to re-enter that information.  By the time I had done that it had sold out.  I don't know if my mistake actually cost me the purchase or not.

I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad.  The final price with tax was going to be $572.40.  I know a lot of people have complaints about the stability of the MFT and its ability to make square cuts.  I've always wanted one since it seems like it would make things easier than the current setup of a custom top made with the Parf Guide System that I'm using.

I kinda hesitated in making the purchase because it's pretty expensive and it's gonna be pretty hard to hide from my wife, unlike just another systainer.

I'm sure another will come up soon. 

I still have mixed feelings on the MFT.  I have two of them now, and for my current situation, they make perfect sense.  But just a year or two ago, I couldn't understand why in the world people bought them.  So what changed for me?

1)  My shop size shrunk from small garage space to tiny due to an ongoing renovation that will probably continue for the rest of time.
2)  My cabinet saw essentially had to be broken down / not usable in the same way it was before necessitating smaller work that I'd do easily on the tablesaw to be done with tracksaw.
3)  Most of my permanant shop storage (cabinets, under-bench storage, drawers, etc.) went bye-bye.
4)  Everything had to become not just mobile but REALLY mobile; able to be taken out, shuffled around, and put away efficiently on a close to daily basis

If it weren't for all of this, I'd be squarely in the it's-over-priced, build-your-own category.

 

[tomdog4]

Does anyone have thoughts on "flipping" recon items? There's a guy near me who is clearly buying a good amount of festool recons and listing them for much more on offerup/craigslist, while calling them "like new."

Not that there's anything illegal about it, but it's bush league if you ask me.

 

[promark747]

Does anyone have thoughts on "flipping" recon items? There's a guy near me who is clearly buying a good amount of festool recons and listing them for much more on offerup/craigslist, while calling them "like new."

Not that there's anything illegal about it, but it's bush league if you ask me.

I don't think there's anything wrong with it, though I wouldn't do it because most of these deals don't seem to be that great of a bargain and you'd risk not making a profit.  I mean, if someone wants to buy a recon VAC-SYS for $1,500 (one of the items today) and try selling it for close to the brand-new price of $1,800, good luck with that.

 

[Tyler Ernsberger]

Yeah I agree.  There’s not a lot of money to be made. 

 

[GoingMyWay]

I'm sure another will come up soon. 

I still have mixed feelings on the MFT.  I have two of them now, and for my current situation, they make perfect sense.  But just a year or two ago, I couldn't understand why in the world people bought them.  So what changed for me?

1)  My shop size shrunk from small garage space to tiny due to an ongoing renovation that will probably continue for the rest of time.
2)  My cabinet saw essentially had to be broken down / not usable in the same way it was before necessitating smaller work that I'd do easily on the tablesaw to be done with tracksaw.
3)  Most of my permanant shop storage (cabinets, under-bench storage, drawers, etc.) went bye-bye.
4)  Everything had to become not just mobile but REALLY mobile; able to be taken out, shuffled around, and put away efficiently on a close to daily basis

If it weren't for all of this, I'd be squarely in the it's-over-priced, build-your-own category.

According to my festoolrecon email history, this is only the 3rd time since December 2017 that the regular MFT/3 has been offered.  It doesn't seem to come up very often and when it does there seems to be only 1 single MFT/3 available.

I also need everything to fold up and out of the way so I can park my car inside the garage.

Yeah I agree.  There’s not a lot of money to be made. 

Having to pay sales tax really cuts into the discount when you compare it to other online stores that do not collect sales tax.

 

[ryanjg117]

Having to pay sales tax really cuts into the discount when you compare it to other online stores that do not collect sales tax.

I've checked the prices on just about every Recon offer and you're right, sales tax kills most of the deals. The best "deals" on Festool will always be Craigslist, usually 60-70% of the value of the tool and no tax to deal with. Another benefit of Festool that not many people seem to be aware of: even if you purchase a tool secondhand, you can register it as long as the original owner has a receipt or proof of purchase showing the tool is within its three-year warranty window. Someone call me out if I'm wrong here but I've registered multiple Craigslist pickups including an OF1400 with a ton of accessories I scored for $300. Continues to be my favorite FesTool and probably in my personal "Top 10 Craigslist Deals of All-Time" list.

 

[ben_r_]

Yea sales tax kills pretty much ALL the Festool recon prices Ive seen. Better to just buy new or watch CL.

 

[GoingMyWay]

I still find the deal to be good enough, even with tax.  It would just be all the sweeter with no tax.  I don't check Craigslist that often, but when I had previously I didn't really find much in the way of Festool, maybe it's like festoolrecon.com, you kinda gotta keep an eye out for something that pops up.

I just picked up the reconditioned ETS EC 150/5 EQ-Plus.  That was $101.97 cheaper than retail, including the sales tax.  Have I gone a bit overboard with the 6" sanders??  I already own the RO150, ETS 150/3, and the soon to be ETS EC 150/5.

 

[ben_r_]

I just picked up the reconditioned ETS EC 150/5 EQ-Plus.  That was $101.97 cheaper than retail, including the sales tax.  Have I gone a bit overboard with the 6" sanders??  I already own the RO150, ETS 150/3, and the soon to be ETS EC 150/5.

I think so... IMO no need to own both the 3mm AND 5mm stroke. I would have added a DTS or RTS for corners and the such first.

 

[gsdvorak]

I just picked up the reconditioned ETS EC 150/5 EQ-Plus.  That was $101.97 cheaper than retail, including the sales tax.  Have I gone a bit overboard with the 6" sanders??  I already own the RO150, ETS 150/3, and the soon to be ETS EC 150/5.

I hope you haven't.. [smile]  Otherwise, that means I'm 'overboard and sinking', as I have the RO150, ETS150/3 and ETS150/5, along with the ETS-EC150/3.  I actually use all of them and, depending on what I'm doing, I do prefer one over the other.  The Rotex and EC150 get the most use however.  Not sure what work you do, but I agree with Ben_r that the DTS and RTS are good 'next' choices.

Regards,
Gerald

 

[GoingMyWay]

Not sure what work you do, but I agree with Ben_r that the DTS and RTS are good 'next' choices.

I just massacre wood.  I can't tell you how many times I've made the most simplest mistake of confusing the keep vs waste side to know which side of the line I need to cut on.

I primarily wanted to make end grain cutting boards (the hardest way possible) by using the wrong tools for the job: TS55 and RO150. 

At the moment I'm making a plane till to hold the few bench and block planes that I have.  I used the ETS 150/3 with 240 grit granat paper for the first time to sand off my pencil marks on the birch plywood.  I guess it was easier to hold/control than the RO150, but I was surprised by how my hand was a little sore from the vibration.  Is that normal?

 

[leakyroof]

Not sure what work you do, but I agree with Ben_r that the DTS and RTS are good 'next' choices.

I just massacre wood.  I can't tell you how many times I've made the most simplest mistake of confusing the keep vs waste side to know which side of the line I need to cut on.

I primarily wanted to make end grain cutting boards (the hardest way possible) by using the wrong tools for the job: TS55 and RO150. 

At the moment I'm making a plane till to hold the few bench and block planes that I have.  I used the ETS 150/3 with 240 grit granat paper for the first time to sand off my pencil marks on the birch plywood.  I guess it was easier to hold/control than the RO150, but I was surprised by how my hand was a little sore from the vibration.  Is that normal?

  You got sore from the Old Style ETS Sander?  Maybe try wearing gel packed gloves to see if it's something that having that Gel padding will take care of for you-
They're also called Anti-Vibration Gloves or Fatigue control gloves

 

[GoingMyWay]

Yeah it was the old style ETS sander.

Maybe sore wasn't the best word choice.  I was just a little surprised how much vibration there was.  I was using it in speed 2 since that's what it was set to when I got it.  I didn't notice that much vibration that traveled up into my hands with the RO150 when using it in either mode.  Maybe that was because I was using 2 hands so the vibration dissipated more?

Since it was a reconditioned unit, I wasn't sure if maybe the vibration was a problem or if it's normal.