First Aid systainer

[wow]

If I do this I would like to ship a 'complete' product, so if there are any dealers who would be willing to work with me on getting the systainers perhaps I could provide the contents and they could pack and ship the systainer. Any dealers interested please PM me?

Thanks everybody!

 

[Crox G]

Would you consider putting together a package of supplies to fit in a Sys 1, and just shipping the supplies to us? We could take care of finding our own Systainers and marking them however we want. Don't let us nickel-and-dime you with substitutions or deletions--one size fits all.  I don't think you'll get a useful consensus on color of the box, color of the latch, or white/red/green crosses.  Shove the stuff in a flat-rate USPS box and leave the rest to us. You won't have to worry about violating international trademarks.

Thanks for all the work you have done on this.

Crox

 

[Jonhilgen]

I'm in.  I need one for my truck in the worst way.  Just has to be in a tloc.

Jon

 

[builderbob]

I'm in.  I need one for my truck in the worst way.  Just has to be in a tloc.

Jon

+1 to that

 

[wow]

OK - I am getting closer to make this a reality. This is an abbreviated version of what I carry in my Trauma Bag. I believe it would be a good kit for woodworkers/tradespeople and I think it would fit nicely in a SYS 1 (although still to be verified/tweaked):

Qty TOOLS & INSTRUMENTS
1 Penlight
1 Trauma Shears
1 SplinterOut
6 Nitrile Gloves (3 pair)
1 1" Roll Transpore Tape
1      Sharpie
1      First Aid Guide/Reference

BANDAGES & DRESSINGS
20 Sterile Bandage Adhesive Strip, 3/4" x 3"
10 Sterile Bandage Adhesive Strip, 1" x 3"
2 Sterile Bandage Adhesive Strip, 2" x 3"
4 Band-Aid Adhesive Bandage, Sheer, 1 3/4inch x 4inch
5 Sterile Bandage Adhesive Strip, Knuckle
5 Sterile Bandage Adhesive Strip, Fingertip
10 Butterfly Closures 3/8" x 1.3/4" (Medium)
2 Sterile Eye Pads
6 2" x 2" Gauze Pads
6 3" x 3" Gauze Pads
6 4" x 4" Gauze Spads
1 5" x 9" Sterile Non-Adhering Dressing
1 Trauma Dressing, Sterile, Multi-purpose, 10inch x 30inch
1 Triangular Bandages
1 3" Elastic Bandage
1 4" Elastic Bandage
1 Sterile 4" Roll Gauze
1 Sterile 6" Roll Gauze
1 Sterile 3.4" x 3.6yd Large Kerlix Roll
1 Sterile 4.5" x 4.1yd Large Kerlix Roll
1 Sterile Bloodstopper® Trauma Dressing

SOLUTIONS & CHEMICALS
1 8 oz hydrogen Peroxide
1 250mL 0.9% NACL Irrigation Solution
1 4oz Eye Wash Solution
20 Triple Antibiotic Ointment  1/32 oz. Unit Dose
1 Betadine 4 oz.

TREATMENT PADS & PACKETS
10 Sterile Alcohol Prep Pads
10 Sterile Povidone Iodine Tincture Pads

MISCELLANEOUS
1 Emergency Disposable Blanket
2 Cold Packs
1 Hot Packs, 6inch x 8 1/4inch
4 Tongue Depressors (sterile)
1 Sam Splint®
1 Sam Finger Splint
1 30 - Q-tip Cotton Swabs


OTC MEDICATIONS
12 Benadryl Caplets
12 Naproxen Caplets (Aleve)
12 Pepcid Complete Chewables
12 Aspirin Tablets 2 x 5 grain Unit Dose
12 Acetaminophen Tablets 2 x 325mg Unit Dose

Cost for the medical items will be $125-$150 depending on participation. This represents wholesale cost with NO MARKUP. It does not include shipping costs nor the price of a SYS1. If people don't want the OTC meds I could reduce the price by about $20.

Since I don't plan to make any money on this, it would likely be a one time deal. I would need at least a dozen people to 'sign up' to get these prices. I will pursue this further based on comments received. Let me know what you think?

 

[semenza]

Other than the tweezers with built in magnifying glass I never knew there were dedicated splinter removal tools.  The SplinterOut ..... anything particular about why / how it works ?

Also on This One the tweezers are obvious (look like good ones too), but what is that other tool?

Best tweezers I have ever used for splinters are the ones on Victorinox Swiss Army Knives. The ends come together tight. Both across the square cut flat nose and at the corners. The corner can be used for fine work and pressing in to get at the splinter and the square nose really grabs well to pull it out. I have used lots of others but none seem to grab as well. They don't look like they would work well because they are so simple, but they do.

EDIT> Never mind I just read the description  :

Seth

 

[Paul G]

Wow, other than the OTC meds, are there products on your list that have shelf lives that a person should pay attention to? I've had a first aid kit in my cars that are each about 10 years old and never used, should they be replaced especially considering the relatively harsh temp flucuations in a car trunk? Just one of those details I've wondered about but never got around to investigating.

 

[aosty]

Great list!  Here's a few more items:

- tweezers
- small mirror, mounted on lid like a machinist toolchest (stuff in eyes, cut on face, etc.)
- superglue
- tube of petroleum jelly
- eye drops
- magnifier
- small pocket knife with sharp point

edit:  ha! re: splinter tool

 

[Stoli]

I'm interested.  For the shop, I wouldn't need the OTC supplies.

I may also consider a set for the car, but I have a similar question as Paul on lifetime and storage conditions.  I had a small pack in my trunk and when I went to use it recently, the adhesive tape was just cloth -- no adhesive; it couldn't deal with multiple years with parking in temps up to 105F/40C.

 

[Charles959]

Years ago, when I was bicycle touring in Nova Scotia, I came across a family whose afternoon was about to be ruined by a splinter in a child's finger. The father used the tweezers in my Swiss Army Knife and got the splinter out on his first attempt.

While browsing in the Best Made Co. site, I came across their white metal first aid kit. The cover mentions OSHA standard 1910.266. If you search for that, you get an interesting list of items intended for first aid kits used by small logging crews.

 

[wow]

The SplinterOut ..... anything particular about why / how it works ?

As an EMT I would encounter people whom I didn't know, so I needed to always have items that were sterile. The SplinterOut is sterile and individually wrapped. Although you can keep and use it repeatedly, it is designed for one-time use.

Also on This One the tweezers are obvious (look like good ones too)

These are very nice, but they are like 10x the cost of the SplinterOut. I could include a good set of Splinter Forcepts if people would like that? Remember, this list is a WIP and can be modified until I start ordering supplies.

 

[wow]

Wow, other than the OTC meds, are there products on your list that have shelf lives that a person should pay attention to? I've had a first aid kit in my cars that are each about 10 years old and never used, should they be replaced especially considering the relatively harsh temp flucuations in a car trunk? Just one of those details I've wondered about but never got around to investigating.

The Betadine and Hydrogen Peroxide can be ruined by repeated freeze/thaw cycles. And you are correct that heat is not your friend!



The gauze and kerlix will probably be fine for decades. I have seen the adhesive fail on the individual packages so they are no longer sealed/sterile, but as long as they remain in your (usually closed) Systainer they should be fine.

I don't know about the practical shelf life of bandages, as I go through them too fast for them to get old. I only use good 3M tape as it is the best out there by far!

 

[wow]

Great list!  Here's a few more items:

- tweezers

Yes, the SplinterOut is for this use

- small mirror, mounted on lid like a machinist toolchest (stuff in eyes, cut on face, etc.)

This CAN BE a good idea, but I didn't include it due the risk of breakage. Do you think - based on how you handle your systainers - that this wouldn't be an issue?

- superglue

I actually have in my trauma bag medical superglue (it's a different formulation that regular so it doesn't burn the skin) but it's expensive - about $20 for a one-time use tube - and I almost never use it. If enough people want it I can include it.

- tube of petroleum jelly

I have this in my kit, but totally missed it on my list. Consider it added

- eye drops

What kind of eye drops are you thinking of? Something like Visine, or something else?

- magnifier

Again, what kind were you thinking of?

- small pocket knife with sharp point

In general, this is what the single edge razor blades are for, but if you see some other use for the pocketknife that I have missed I am listening...

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[Jonhilgen]

Splinter out = awesomeness.  Work great, and can definitely be reused for oneself (I have one in my tools box that is at least four years old...)

Mirror? No need, IMO.

Jon

 

[aosty]

- small mirror, mounted on lid like a machinist toolchest (stuff in eyes, cut on face, etc.)

This CAN BE a good idea, but I didn't include it due the risk of breakage. Do you think - based on how you handle your systainers - that this wouldn't be an issue?

Plastic!
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008673JAM/

- eye drops

What kind of eye drops are you thinking of? Something like Visine, or something else?

I was thinking more like artificial tears and/or lubricant eye drops.

- magnifier

Again, what kind were you thinking of?

Just a small handheld thing... handy for those pesky splinters.