First Aid Systainer

Systainer.Store said:
One idea we had to make a First Aid Systainer.

* Use our FSA money (for those in the USA) to buy a first aid refill kit with enough of the stuff you want from a place like FSAstore.com.

* Get vinyl labels for a printer from Amazon and print out the logos/words you want on the kit. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FKXOJOY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

* Pick up a standard systainer and fit it out! https://systainer.store

As a retailer, can you not just make the kits available and let people purchase them from you with their FSA money? Or does it have to certified in some way to qualify?

Like in The Netherlands some mouth water is taxed at 21% and some not at all, depending if it's classified as 'cosmetics' or 'medicine'... which depends on if the producer has some kind of license...
 
I just made my own in an old classic sys 1.
 

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Man, I got to get my notifications turned on, I missed the replies!

In my suggestion about FSA money, I didn't mean use my FSA to create a product to sell. 

I meant my wife and I talked about making a home kit for our own use and use FSA money.  Not everyone has FSA, but if you do, it helps tax wise to use it and not loose it.

Recently I was at a water park.  They had a first aid backpack.  From what I saw, the life guard had to dig through it to find the appropriate items to treat the need.  A Systainer would have been easier, all the bandage and ointments arrayed nicely in front of you.
 
Systainer.Store said:
Man, I got to get my notifications turned on, I missed the replies!

In my suggestion about FSA money, I didn't mean use my FSA to create a product to sell. 

I think [member=8955]Coen[/member] was suggesting you offer a first aid systainer for sale as an item in your product line, that the public in turn could purchase using FSA funds.
 
Paul G said:
Systainer.Store said:
Man, I got to get my notifications turned on, I missed the replies!

In my suggestion about FSA money, I didn't mean use my FSA to create a product to sell. 

I think [member=8955]Coen[/member] was suggesting you offer a first aid systainer for sale as an item in your product line, that the public in turn could purchase using FSA funds.

Yes, exactly that.
 
There’s a lot of history here regarding first aid systainers, back in ‘14 the member [member=25476]wow[/member] was taking orders for his own custom run. Search his old posts on first aid and you’ll see a lot of details he put into it. Unfortunately he passed away in ‘15.
 
Wayne...WOW...produced 2 different kits. The 1st one was in a full sized Systainer and incorporated almost everything from a bone saw to an iron lung.

His 2nd iteration was in a mini Systainer and it was correlated closer to the accidents that one might sustain in a typical shop environment.

I purchased one of the later because I already own a bone saw...there is lots of good info in the WOW thread on the specific items included in both of these kits.
 
The mini version was more realistic for my needs as well, though I passed on the offer since I have way too many first aid kits already. That first kit was probably army medic ready, if I ever needed that much stuff in one instance I’d probably be too injured to use it anyway. I can see it being great for a multi person shop though.
 
OK - so I did more digging on this.  There isn't an official first aid looking systainer available from Tanos.  We can totally customize one from the colors to what is printed on it.

If we can coordinate the design and enough preorders, I'm willing to make it happen.  I'm thinking we should standard on the size, SYS-I or MINI?

Then we should determine what is the color of systainer and any icons or emblems printed on the systainer.  We can also consider just a high quality logo. 

At the moment I'm assuming I'd sell just the empty systainer, as suggested.

When we get a design finalized, I can arrange a preorder section on Systainer.Store.  How does that sound?
So - what would you like in a design?
 
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I’m interested and willing to participate.

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[member=68900]Systainer.Store[/member] , when WOW was going down the path of getting his first aid kits going he reached out to me for advice on printing whereas I had trials and tribulations with all the Fogtainers.  Printing thru Tanos was not really an option for a small batch.  Wayne lived in Minneapolis and I found him a printer that was actually only about 4 blocks from his house.

If you end up needing a resource for printing give me a shout and I will go thru all my saved messages and emails and try and find you a name.

Peter
 
Cheese said:
Wayne...WOW...produced 2 different kits. The 1st one was in a full sized Systainer and incorporated almost everything from a bone saw to an iron lung.

His 2nd iteration was in a mini Systainer and it was correlated closer to the accidents that one might sustain in a typical shop environment.

I purchased one of the later because I already own a bone saw...there is lots of good info in the WOW thread on the specific items included in both of these kits.
I ended up getting both , the big one is in the shop/garage and small one in the truck.
Charlie

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pettyconstruction said:
Cheese said:
Wayne...WOW...produced 2 different kits. The 1st one was in a full sized Systainer and incorporated almost everything from a bone saw to an iron lung.

His 2nd iteration was in a mini Systainer and it was correlated closer to the accidents that one might sustain in a typical shop environment.

I purchased one of the later because I already own a bone saw...there is lots of good info in the WOW thread on the specific items included in both of these kits.
I ended up getting both , the big one is in the shop/garage and small one in the truck.
Charlie

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Sounds like your good to go for cuts to Polio outbreaks in the garage.  Well prepared, good man.
 
Thank you guys for the feedback and encouragement on this idea. 

On Friday I got printing cost from Tanos and I'll have to work through the calculations to see where it ends up.  Then we can explore how many people may be interested and if we need to get printing done with a smaller batch.

I see there being a couple design decisions:

Size :: SYS-I, MINI-sys I, or some other size

First aid scheme :: Here is a quick Wikipedia blurb on First Aid kits.  It mentions that ISO has a standard of green background and white cross for first aid.  However in the USA I'm most familiar with white kits with red cross (generic) or a red kit with white cross (life guard?).  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_aid_kit

Color scheme :: once we get the above figured out, we then think about box body color, handle color and T-LOC color.  Then where the logo may be printed.  The more variety in this, then the harder or more costly it may be to source.  Yet to be validated though.  Here is Tanos colors:  https://www.tanos.de/007/En/HOME/PRODUCT_AREAS/systainer/Colours.html
 
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