first big glue up using Domino XL

mick71

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Doing my first big glue up using the Domino XL [scared]. The door has 7 rails and uses 28 Dominos!(14mm x 140mm). I did a test run on one of the rails but it was a real pain trying to remove the dominos again so I am a little reluctant to do a dry run on the whole lot. I can't be on an Island here. The only thing I can think of is sanding 28 dominos and using them as a test for this and future projects. Any other suggestions are most welcome.
 
That's what others do with the smaller dominos. I've had success at getting (up  to 10mm) them out with adjustable pliers, gripping the end where damage isn't important.

But prob won't work on the big ones.

The real fun will be getting glue into those mortises .....
 
+1 on what Fritter said.  Another forum member posted pics of how he drilled a large hole in each half so the domino could be pulled out more easily with some sort of hook.  Hope this helps.  Best of luck with your door.

Regards,

John
 
I bought one of the Domino XL700 for my custom cabinet shop, but so far it has only been used for personal experimental furniture making by the master cabinet makers working for me. I bought the Domino XL assortment kit with it, as I have done with some of my Domino500.

In cabinet making I mostly use the 5mm and 6mm Dominoes, as well as 4mm for things like drawers.  I took about 100 of each size and sanded off just enough the are easily removed after dry fitting. All of those sanded-down Dominoes are marked on each end with a red magic marker so it is easy to tell the smaller ones from new full-size Dominoes. Each size of sanded Dominoes are kept in plastic baggies.
 
Don't know if this would work in your situation, but I have always put the stubborn domino in a vise and tapped straight upward on the workpiece.  Domino comes right out and doesn't deform the mortise. 
But thats basically the way I was taught to undo any dry fit.
 
HI Jesse,
                Thats pretty much how I got the one out on the rail I tested. Problem is with so many dominos I just thought there might of been an easier way. The style is over 7 1/2' foot(2340mm) long! see image attached.
 
Glue up the dominoes into the rails then you have a standard tenon and it will be much easier to test fit and glue up with 1/2 of the job done.
 
Cheers Kevin. I thought of this also. Was a little concerned about excess glue drying on the rail but i guess any issues would be picked up when testing on the style. I will give this a shot.
 
Rails glued up and excess glue wiped off ok. No real issues getting glue in the mortices, used a toothbrush for this and it cleaned up with water after use so I will be able to use it when gluing the rails to the styles. Had to trim 10mm off the dominos to allow for the rebate. My accuracy will be tested tomorrow when I do a dry run with the styles! [scared] Lucky I still had the sample domino the rep gave me otherwise I would have been one short!

 
mick71 said:
Rails glued up and excess glue wiped off ok. No real issues getting glue in the mortices, used a toothbrush for this and it cleaned up with water after use so I will be able to use it when gluing the rails to the styles. Had to trim 10mm off the dominos to allow for the rebate. My accuracy will be tested tomorrow when I do a dry run with the styles! [scared] Lucky I still had the sample domino the rep gave me otherwise I would have been one short!

Did you run the Domino through the pieces before you rebated the edge or after? Only asking as I'm toying with doing something similar with multiple doors (but much shorter, narrower and lighter).

Kev
 
Kev said:
mick71 said:
Rails glued up and excess glue wiped off ok. No real issues getting glue in the mortices, used a toothbrush for this and it cleaned up with water after use so I will be able to use it when gluing the rails to the styles. Had to trim 10mm off the dominos to allow for the rebate. My accuracy will be tested tomorrow when I do a dry run with the styles! [scared] Lucky I still had the sample domino the rep gave me otherwise I would have been one short!

Did you run the Domino through the pieces before you rebated the edge or after? Only asking as I'm toying with doing something similar with multiple doors (but much shorter, narrower and lighter).

Kev

Its better to do it before I think.  All depends how big the rebate is etc but I did it after once and what happend the cutter would hit part of the rebate which would move the domino about because it didnt have material all around the cutter to keep it steady.

Jmb
 
I used the domino after rip cutting the rebates with the TS-75 module mounted in the CMS. I only did it this way because it was a custom door and I was a bit unsure as to exactly how many rails I wanted to use. No issues however with the machine moving about.
 
I have both Domino Jointer and I keep a bag of sanded dominos of each size with the ends marked with a sharpie pen.

Jack
 
What'd be really cool would be a reference set of nice smooth aluminium dominoes - just ever so slightly under sized and perfectly flat so they don't "grab".

Though this could be a costly option if a full test assembly was required. Doctoring a set of dominoes for test assemblies is probably cheaper!
 
Kev said:
What'd be really cool would be a reference set of nice smooth aluminium dominoes - just ever so slightly under sized and perfectly flat so they don't "grab".

Though this could be a costly option if a full test assembly was required. Doctoring a set of dominoes for test assemblies is probably cheaper!

Or maybe hdpe or other slick material.  I remember a member posting about drilling a couple of holes in the tenons so you could stick a screwdriver in to help pull the domino out.  As you said it would be a lot cheaper to modify a few wood tenons with some sanding.
 
Brice Burrell said:
Kev said:
What'd be really cool would be a reference set of nice smooth aluminium dominoes - just ever so slightly under sized and perfectly flat so they don't "grab".

Though this could be a costly option if a full test assembly was required. Doctoring a set of dominoes for test assemblies is probably cheaper!

Or maybe hdpe or other slick material.  I remember a member posting about drilling a couple of holes in the tenons so you could stick a screwdriver in to help pull the domino out.  As you said it would be a lot cheaper to modify a few wood tenons with some sanding.

I often use a glass crimper to grip the dominos that are too tight.  It leaves a mark but, it gets the job done.

Jack
 
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