Fisch Brad Point set

[semenza]

Just got these so not a real complete review but not a whole lot to review anyway. 1/16" through 1/2" by 64ths. The four smallest are not brad point but it doesn't seem to matter.

These are really good!  Sharp! I drilled some test holes in pine and maple. Very clean, fast cutting, and very good dust / chip removal.

Even the small 1/16" drilled without clogging. I have not used a 1/16" bit ( or anything smaller 1/8" ) that did not have the flutes clog up. These did not clog on my test holes.

Nice complete set and the price is pretty good too. Currently between $80 - $100 on the net.

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Seth

 

[live4ever]

Intrigued, thanks Seth.  Been looking for a complete set that’s in-between the quality of my LV brad points and my various beater brands.  Sounds like this just might be the ticket.  I have a couple of their Forstners and they’re quite good.

 

[McNally Family]

https://www.woodcraft.com/products/...ul6IuCABRlrTrHeI9bj20jE-f62a8sPhoCRZsQAvD_BwE

 

[mike_aa]

If you are looking for a metric set, Axminister has them in High Speed Steel for a decent price.

Mike A.

 

[Cheese]

If you are looking for a metric set, Axminister has them in High Speed Steel for a decent price.

Woodcraft also has the Fisch set in metric.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/25-piece-metric-brad-point-drill-index

 

[mike_aa]

If you are looking for a metric set, Axminister has them in High Speed Steel for a decent price.

Woodcraft also has the Fisch set in metric.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/25-piece-metric-brad-point-drill-index

[member=44099]Cheese[/member]  Woodcraft says their set is made from Chrome-Vanadium Steel.  Axminster's set is High Speed Steel.  Isn't HSS the better choice or am I missing something? 

Mike A.

 

[Cheese]

[member=44099]Cheese[/member]  Woodcraft says their set is made from Chrome-Vanadium Steel.  Axminster's set is High Speed Steel.  Isn't HSS the better choice or am I missing something? 

Mike A.

Hey Mike, I believe chrome vanadium is considered to be a HSS.

 

[mike_aa]

[member=44099]Cheese[/member]  Woodcraft says their set is made from Chrome-Vanadium Steel.  Axminster's set is High Speed Steel.  Isn't HSS the better choice or am I missing something? 

Mike A.

Hey Mike, I believe chrome vanadium is considered to be a HSS.

Thanks, Cheese!

 

[fshanno]

I saw these on Amazon for 89.35 and my total Prime price would be $96.72.  Didn't know Woodcraft carried them.  I'd much rather buy from the Woodcraft brick and mortar and I'll be in Houston on the 17th.  I've got the 8 piece metric set from Fisch and they are very good.

 

[Cheese]

I'd much rather buy from the Woodcraft brick and mortar and I'll be in Houston on the 17th.  I've got the 8 piece metric set from Fisch and they are very good.

Ya I like to support the brick & mortars as it’s our last bastion against their demise. When they’re gone... it’s the end of local touchy-feely.

 

[gsdvorak]

I have had a Fisch 7-Pc imperial brad-point set for many years that I bought at my local dealer and have been very happy with them. Still very sharp and cut a clean hole.  They get 'babied' and only leave their wooden case when in use.

I didn't know they made a large set so glad I stumbled upon this thread.  I ordered from Woodcraft (along with today's mega-deal) and they are on their way.  Thanks Seth!

Regards,
Gerald

 

[sancho57]

looks like a very nice set. I have a set that came with my installers set but its not as complete as this one .So I ordered one for me. Dont need it right now but I will soon.

 

[semenza]

Heads up.

I am just discovering today that some of the small bits are slightly curved making them wobble while drilling. Haven't gone through them all to check , but I might. For something that is designed to drill a precise hole size ................ this is not good. Plus it is irritating as heck while drilling. Might be contacting Fisch to see about replacements.

Seth

 

[fshanno]

I was at Harbor Freight today to get a cheap welder and I noticed that they now have a 29 piece brad point drill bit set.  Yes you read right, brad point.  The set was something like $9 with a coupon and included the same sizes as the Fisch.  And the case is not bad at all.

So, what the heck, I bought it.  You know what?  It's pretty cheap.  Not super sharp like a good set.  But the bits really are brad point and they work.  Used several of the sizes in the drill press drilling into white oak today.  3" deep in white oak with the 3/8" bit as a matter of fact.  No problems.  No smoke, nothing caught on fire.  Fairly clean hole.

Obviously it's just a utility set and I'm still going to Woodcraft but these are serviceable in the meantime.

 

[deepcreek]

I've been looking for a good brad point set and had settled on the Fisch but needed a hole that was 1/8" (0.125) on the money and discovered that every 1/8" Fisch bit I tested at my local Woodcraft using my Mitutoyo digital calipers was undersized.

I really want an accurate set from a quality maker in 1/64 increments with individual replacements of all sizes available.  I'm seriously looking at the ones made by Fuller.  Their sets are a lot more expensive but I love their tapered countersinks.  Tools for Working Wood has the best price I found at $200 for a 28 piece set.  They also have Metric sets in 0.5mm increments. https://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/store/dept/CFF

You're right that the bits need to be straight or the run-out will produce an oversized hole.  I have one of those Woodcraft boxed sets with multiple bits of every size.  Half of them aren't straight or sharp.  Chinese crap!

 

[Cheese]

I really want an accurate set from a quality maker in 1/64 increments with individual replacements of all sizes available.  I'm seriously looking at the ones made by Fuller.  Their sets are a lot more expensive but I love their tapered countersinks.  Tools for Working Wood has the best price I found at $200 for a 28 piece set.  They also have Metric sets in 0.5mm increments. https://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/store/dept/CFF

Thanks for the link, I need to purchase the Fuller larger diameter drill bits that are not available at Jamestown Distributors.

If you need to purchase Fuller individual smaller diameter brad point drills, like 7/64", 3/32" & 5/64" I purchased mine from here.
https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=1374&familyName=Fuller+Brad+Point+Drills+-+Regular+Length

 

[HAXIT]

Not doing too much in the shop this week but painting my last project and cleaning around the house and weather is fabulous!
I am taking a tee break and here is what I use with love. No burning,dulling,smoking or bending. Clean in and out from 28mm to 400mm deep and holes from 1mm to 16mm.

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[semenza]

OK, I tested some more of them. The smallest four all wobble enough to cause an over sized hole and make the drill "shake". The 1/8" wobbles just a bit. Probably not bad enough to be a problem. Checked more working up in size and did not have any issues. I did not try them all because the sizes above the 1/8" that I tested seemed to indicate that they would all be fine.

For comparison and verification I checked the same sizes in the same drill (and chuck) in Insty and in another high quality twist drill set that I have. No wobble.

The four smallest are the non-brad point which in itself doesn't explain the bent bit factor but it could be they are from a different manufacturing source with lesser tolerances. Just speculating.

Beyond the above issue they are really nice.

It would be good to know from other owners if the same issue occurs wit the same bits.

Seth

 

[semenza]

Not doing too much in the shop this week but painting my last project and cleaning around the house and weather is fabulous!
I am taking a tee break and here is what I use with love. No burning,dulling,smoking or bending. Clean in and out from 28mm to 400mm deep and holes from 1mm to 16mm.

Unfortunately doesn't look like Famag has brad point in inches.

Seth

 

[grbmds]

I've been looking for a good brad point set and had settled on the Fisch but needed a hole that was 1/8" (0.125) on the money and discovered that every 1/8" Fisch bit I tested at my local Woodcraft using my Mitutoyo digital calipers was undersized.

I really want an accurate set from a quality maker in 1/64 increments with individual replacements of all sizes available.  I'm seriously looking at the ones made by Fuller.  Their sets are a lot more expensive but I love their tapered countersinks.  Tools for Working Wood has the best price I found at $200 for a 28 piece set.  They also have Metric sets in 0.5mm increments. https://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/store/dept/CFF

You're right that the bits need to be straight or the run-out will produce an oversized hole.  I have one of those Woodcraft boxed sets with multiple bits of every size.  Half of them aren't straight or sharp.  Chinese crap!

Have you checked other drill bit brands? I don't know about drill bits, but recently I bought some dedicated T-handle hex keys for my lathe and found that there was variation between the right angle hex keys I owned. I took my gauge to the store and found that most were slightly undersized but some hex keys were right on the 3 and 4 mm sizes I was looking for. I started to wonder if that might not be the case with drill bits also. I've never ever checked or paid any attention over the years as I've never had problems with the hole sizes. For many years I've used a Hanson set of regular bits but I will at least check them now. The other side of this whole thing is whether the actual variations matter. In the case of the hex keys, it was enough to make one oversized for the screw heads.