Fischer wall anchors

[woodbutcherbower]

[member=8955]Coen[/member] +1 on Fischer. I’ve used nothing else for many years. Fantastic fixings.

 

[rocky100370]

Nice! Not to get off topic but Ive never used the Fischer brand of anchors. Researched their product and I think Im going to be another one of their customers. Thanks for the post!

 

[Cheese]

Thanks [member=8955]Coen[/member] & [member=75780]woodbutcherbower[/member] for the Fischer fixings shout-out. I need to try those items as the normal ones always rotate in the hole as you attempt to tighten them...PITA. I assume these expand to prevent that from happening?

 

[Coen]

They have some ribs that prevent rotation even before they expand because of the screw. I've never had a Fischer Duopower rotate in the hole.  You usually need a small hammer to get them fully into the hole.

But it also depends on the type of drill bit. Cheap crooked drillbits create oversized holes.

 

[semenza]

Info from the original post by Coen.

          I guess this marks the end of buying plugs based on 'cause I need this different size xxy now'.

99% of walls here are brick, concrete, limestone or aerated concrete so I don't stock the huge drywall anchors. For aerated concrete the 6x50 plugs actually hold more than the 8x40 ones.

Wallplugs supplied with furniture are usually junk, so I tend to throw those away in favor of the Duopower plugs.
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[Coen]

Ah. Split off from here;https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/...ners/show-your-systainer/msg676699/#msg676699

 

[woodbutcherbower]

Sorry for the inadvertent post hijack, Seth - but good call on giving this a separate topic.

100% what Coen said. Use a good quality masonry bit to drill a nice circular hole - the anchors are marginally oversized and need tapping into the hole using a small hammer to seat them firmly. The moulded ribs prevent rotation in the hole - and I've also never had one spin round either.

I build and fit a lot of kitchens, and I've hung upwards of 300 heavy wall cabinets using either Duopower 8mm x 40mm anchors with 5mm x 50mm screws, or the 10mm x 50mm ones with 6mm x 60mm screws for the really heavy ones. For anything crazy-heavy, I'll use multiple 10 x 50's to anchor a French Cleat and hang stuff from that.

I've used them exclusively for 5 years so far = zero failure rate.

There are also numerous other Fischer products I use occasionally, such as their 2-pack anchor resin for installing super-heavy structures such as the Victorian door canopy I recently posted in the 'Member Projects' section. You essentially drill a big, deep hole (an inch/25mm in diameter) into the brickwork, stone or concrete. The resin is then injected into the hole, and whilst it's still wet, you insert a length of threaded 3/4"/20mm steel rod, leaving several inches sticking out like a threaded stud. After less than an hour, the resin has set as hard as concrete. The structure is then installed on the wall, using washers and nuts which spin onto the threaded rod. 

Their website is well worth checking out. Over the years, I've discovered that no matter how unusual the application - they'll have a fixing for it. They're not the cheapest - but the best never is.

 

[Doug S]

Not sure if it has been mentioned anywhere but the beauty of the Fischer Duopower plugs is that you can use them in solid walls and plasterboard (drywall to most of you guys) so it saves you carrying around different types of fixings. I was sceptical at first but they do work well, the red part of the plug pulls back and kind of knots up behind the plasterboard giving a solid fastening.

 

[Cheese]

There are also numerous other Fischer products I use occasionally, such as their 2-pack anchor resin for installing super-heavy structures such as the Victorian door canopy I recently posted in the 'Member Projects' section. You essentially drill a big, deep hole (an inch/25mm in diameter) into the brickwork, stone or concrete. The resin is then injected into the hole, and whilst it's still wet, you insert a length of threaded 3/4"/20mm steel rod, leaving several inches sticking out like a threaded stud. After less than an hour, the resin has set as hard as concrete. The structure is then installed on the wall, using washers and nuts which spin onto the threaded rod. 

That seems similar to the Hilti Epoxy system.

 

[woodbutcherbower]

There are also numerous other Fischer products I use occasionally, such as their 2-pack anchor resin for installing super-heavy structures such as the Victorian door canopy I recently posted in the 'Member Projects' section. You essentially drill a big, deep hole (an inch/25mm in diameter) into the brickwork, stone or concrete. The resin is then injected into the hole, and whilst it's still wet, you insert a length of threaded 3/4"/20mm steel rod, leaving several inches sticking out like a threaded stud. After less than an hour, the resin has set as hard as concrete. The structure is then installed on the wall, using washers and nuts which spin onto the threaded rod. 

That seems similar to the Hilti Epoxy system.

It is, [member=44099]Cheese[/member] - and I've used the Hilti system before, too. I prefer the Fischer one, however, because it's slightly granular and binds to rough stonework better. A large majority of the old local buildings I work on are constructed using a locally-quarried stone called Millstone Grit. It's a little like sandstone and often cracks and crumbles when you drill it, so the thicker, coarser Fischer resin works better. It also sets way quicker - and it's half the price of the Hilti equivalent.

 

[semenza]

Sorry for the inadvertent post hijack, Seth - but good call on giving this a separate topic.

  I wouldn't call it a post hijack. No problem in that regard.  Good stuff just tends to get lost forever in the continuous running topics. There is probably tons of stuff buried in the " What did you buy" topics. Those are perfectly fine and have their purpose too. I try to pull out a few items that seem like they should get a place in the sun.

Seth

 

[Bob D.]

There are also numerous other Fischer products I use occasionally, such as their 2-pack anchor resin for installing super-heavy structures such as the Victorian door canopy I recently posted in the 'Member Projects' section. You essentially drill a big, deep hole (an inch/25mm in diameter) into the brickwork, stone or concrete. The resin is then injected into the hole, and whilst it's still wet, you insert a length of threaded 3/4"/20mm steel rod, leaving several inches sticking out like a threaded stud. After less than an hour, the resin has set as hard as concrete. The structure is then installed on the wall, using washers and nuts which spin onto the threaded rod. 

That seems similar to the Hilti Epoxy system.

The Hilti HIT Epoxy System works very well. We used it on a project where it was used to secure anchors in wet (and I mean soaking wet) concrete that will be underwater 24/7 in brackish water once the job is done. Never had one fail. I was on that job for another 5 years and we had divers inspect those anchors every other month. Not just a visual they checked for torque on the anchors and all flange bolting (1-1/4 Monel 500) and there are hundreds of them. There are a couple different mixes depending on the application.

 

[Mini Me]

As someone who has no interest in Systainer threads as I get rid of them ASAP I concur that a lot of good comment like this will not be seen either now or later on. Thanks for starting this thread.

 

[rocky100370]

Does Fischer make an assortment kit?

 

[AlexThePalex]

Does Fischer make an assortment kit?

Yes.
https://www.toolstation.nl/fischer-...Lic5KJR_arZriVBS3M97WyxoFTP_nbAxoCswcQAvD_BwE

 

[woodbutcherbower]

Although Alex’s post links to a Dutch website, the product video on there is great. Explains everything you’ll ever need to know about the Duopower product.

 

[Coen]

They make many different assortments. In custom small plastic boxes, in mini L-boxx and even in the large L-Boxx. But none as complete as my DIY assortment  [tongue]

 

[pixelated]

Can anyone recommend a source for these in the US that is not Amazon?
Or maybe a European source that ships here?

 

[woodbutcherbower]

Can anyone recommend a source for these in the US that is not Amazon?
Or maybe a European source that ships here?

Here's a link to the US website;
https://www.fischerfixingsusa.com/en-us/

I'm sure that a mail to them through their contact page would give you a list of supplier outlets. You'll find the DuoPower anchors under the 'standard fixings' header, then go across to the the 'plastic fixings' subsection on the 'Products' drop-down box. You could also call them on 973 256 3045.

Hope you get fixed up.

Kevin

 

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