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[rvieceli]

Looks great. How's it working out for you?

Ron

 

[Mike Goetzke]

Looks great. How's it working out for you?

Ron

Still want a Voyager some day but this a world ahead of the 15.5" Ridgid DP I've had for little over 20 year. The electronic variable speed and electronic depth stop are very impressive. The runout with the Albrecht chuck is less than 0.0005" (it was 0 on my Powermatic 3520B wood lathe)!

 

[festal]

Very interesting. NIcely done

 

[Cheese]

Looks good Mike...that spacer came out nice. Can't complain too much about 5/10th's runout.  [big grin]

Did you turn off the auto reverse function?

 

[Mike Goetzke]

Looks good Mike...that spacer came out nice. Can't complain too much about 5/10th's runout.  [big grin]

Did you turn off the auto reverse function?

Thanks for your help on this too [member=44099]Cheese[/member] . The sleeve has drilled holes in-line with the set screws such that the load is reacted on the DP post and not the sleeve.

Yes I turned off auto-reverse - I did a few more tests and the auto reverse with a Forstner bit may be a bit smoother but not much. With the reverse turned off there is a much louder alarm when you hit your depth which I like.

I need to get use to a keyless chuck on a drill press. Think I'm overnighting because it takes quite a bit of my strength to release the bit.

Mike

 

[Cheese]

I need to get use to a keyless chuck on a drill press. Think I'm overnighting because it takes quite a bit of my strength to release the bit.

Like we talked about previously, the Albrecht chuck incorporates a self-tightening mechanism so I just lightly snug up the collar, it doesn't take much force. Directly from Albrecht:

"All Albrecht Precision Drill Chucks, incorporate a unique self-tightening feature that causes them to grip drills tighter as more torque is applied.
This self-tightening advantage, combined with the fact that keyless chucks are easily opened by hand, is causing many industries to abandon key-type drill chucks altogether."

 

[Michael Kellough]

I bought a Spanish keyless chuck. It’s okay for most purposes but when doing something heavy duty like a 5/8” counterbore in aluminum the chuck needs additional tightening with a wrench that was included.

 

[Mike Goetzke]

I need to get use to a keyless chuck on a drill press. Think I'm overnighting because it takes quite a bit of my strength to release the bit.

Like we talked about previously, the Albrecht chuck incorporates a self-tightening mechanism so I just lightly snug up the collar, it doesn't take much force. Directly from Albrecht:

"All Albrecht Precision Drill Chucks, incorporate a unique self-tightening feature that causes them to grip drills tighter as more torque is applied.
This self-tightening advantage, combined with the fact that keyless chucks are easily opened by hand, is causing many industries to abandon key-type drill chucks altogether."

I messed around with the chuck some more and it works great with twist bits and smaller Forstner bits but gives me issues with my killer 2-1/8" Forstner into end grain. So 95% or so of the time I should be able to loosen the chuck by hand.

 

[festal]

This was an unexpected find. Looks like Bosch will be for sale soon lol

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[Mike Goetzke]

This was an unexpected find. Looks like Bosch will be for sale soon lol

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Very nice! Now where did you find that?

 

[Cheese]

I messed around with the chuck some more and it works great with twist bits and smaller Forstner bits but gives me issues with my. killer 2-1/8" Forstner into end grain. So 95% or so of the time I should be able to loosen the chuck by hand.

Well that's a great example of how well the auto-tightening feature works on the Albrecht. That 2 1/8" Forstner certainly produces a large moment arm on the chuck.

Can you use a couple of silicone pads or do you need to bring out the pliers?

 

[Mike Goetzke]

I messed around with the chuck some more and it works great with twist bits and smaller Forstner bits but gives me issues with my. killer 2-1/8" Forstner into end grain. So 95% or so of the time I should be able to loosen the chuck by hand.

Well that's a great example of how well the auto-tightening feature works on the Albrecht. That 2 1/8" Forstner certainly produces a large moment arm on the chuck.

Can you use a couple of silicone pads or do you need to bring out the pliers?

I used pliers with a rag. Didn't take much to loosen. Never thought to try silicone pads - will try next time.

The DP has a feature to electronically lock the spindle for keyless chucks. Ha - didn't lock it enough for the big Forstner.

After reading others runout measurements with other DP's and chucks I'm more and more impressed with this Nova/Albrecht combo!

 

[rvieceli]

A strap wrench is a nice tool to have. Works well for this
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Ron

 

[Mike Goetzke]

Go figure - I started this project to get a variable speed DP in my shop to try out since I have been waiting over a year for a Voyager (latest estimate was 1st week of July delivery but wasn't holding my breath). I wanted some time to test the Viking out but I get this voice mail today that my Voyager will be delivered within an hour!

(I'm actually very happy the wait is over.)

 

[festal]

This was an unexpected find. Looks like Bosch will be for sale soon lol

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Very nice! Now where did you find that?

Direct from teknotool , refurb. Got it upright

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[festal]

Go figure - I started this project to get a variable speed DP in my shop to try out since I have been waiting over a year for a Voyager (latest estimate was 1st week of July delivery but wasn't holding my breath). I wanted some time to test the Viking out but I get this voice mail today that my Voyager will be delivered within an hour!

(I'm actually very happy the wait is over.)

Oh nice. Now you have 2 lol. One for steel and one for wood?

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[Mike Goetzke]

Go figure - I started this project to get a variable speed DP in my shop to try out since I have been waiting over a year for a Voyager (latest estimate was 1st week of July delivery but wasn't holding my breath). I wanted some time to test the Viking out but I get this voice mail today that my Voyager will be delivered within an hour!

(I'm actually very happy the wait is over.)

Oh nice. Now you have 2 lol. One for steel and one for wood?

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I wish both my tool budget and garage/shop could afford both.

[member=71889]festal[/member] You found a home for that Viking pretty quickly.

(I should have not put this Viking together because some features are easier to access on it than the Voyager.)

 

[festal]

Go figure - I started this project to get a variable speed DP in my shop to try out since I have been waiting over a year for a Voyager (latest estimate was 1st week of July delivery but wasn't holding my breath). I wanted some time to test the Viking out but I get this voice mail today that my Voyager will be delivered within an hour!

(I'm actually very happy the wait is over.)

Oh nice. Now you have 2 lol. One for steel and one for wood?

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I wish both my tool budget and garage/shop could afford both.

[member=71889]festal[/member] You found a home for that Viking pretty quickly.

(I should have not put this Viking together because some features are easier to access on it than the Voyager.)

Yep had the file drawer cabinet ready for it lol.  Its a bit dingy but should be fine.  Might end up building something better.  Menu on Viking is nicer, also built in light and laser which voyager lacks.  I do like the bit selection on voyager vs viking but there is a good table in the manual that i'll print out and laminate.

 

[Mike Goetzke]

I messed around with the chuck some more and it works great with twist bits and smaller Forstner bits but gives me issues with my. killer 2-1/8" Forstner into end grain. So 95% or so of the time I should be able to loosen the chuck by hand.

Well that's a great example of how well the auto-tightening feature works on the Albrecht. That 2 1/8" Forstner certainly produces a large moment arm on the chuck.

Can you use a couple of silicone pads or do you need to bring out the pliers?

I used pliers with a rag. Didn't take much to loosen. Never thought to try silicone pads - will try next time.

The DP has a feature to electronically lock the spindle for keyless chucks. Ha - didn't lock it enough for the big Forstner.

After reading others runout measurements with other DP's and chucks I'm more and more impressed with this Nova/Albrecht combo!

[member=44099]Cheese[/member]  Only tried it a few times but my new Voyager electronic spindle lock has a stronger hold than the Viking and I have been able to loosen the 2-1/8" Forstner with one hand.

 

[Cheese]

[member=44099]Cheese[/member]  Only tried it a few times but my new Voyager electronic spindle lock has a stronger hold than the Viking and I have been able to loosen the 2-1/8" Forstner with one hand.

That's good to know Mike because that's how it should be. I've yet to use more than one hand on my Albrecht/Delta combination, and that's been in use for at least the last 6-7 years. [smile]

One hand is on the drill bit and the other hand gives the Albrecht a quick 1/4 turn and she's loose.