Glue gun question

[Wooden Lungs]

Just rang the Joiner I saw using the hot melt gun system and had a chat with him. He told me he actually uses this system http://www.konig-uk.co.uk/konigshop/hm220g-professional-melt-filler-p-114.html
and got it from his timber supplier "Whitmores". I dont find this so called "healthy sketiscm" helpfull especially when its coming from people who have never used this system or even witnessed it being used.

 

[jonny round boy]

Just rang the Joiner I saw using the hot melt gun system and had a chat with him. He told me he actually uses this system http://www.konig-uk.co.uk/konigshop/hm220g-professional-melt-filler-p-114.html
and got it from his timber supplier "Whitmores". I dont find this so called "healthy sketiscm" helpfull especially when its coming from people who have never used this system or even witnessed it being used.

I must admit, when you first mentioned using a glue gun for filling I too was sceptical, as I envisaged using normal glue-gun glue. I'm sure others did too. I hadn't heard of this system, but now I've seen your link it does actually look very good.

 

[tiralie]

...and got it from his timber supplier "Whitmores". I dont find this so called "healthy sketiscm" helpfull especially when its coming from people who have never used this system or even witnessed it being used.

Thanks for persisting. Please let us know how it works, I am sure many more than I am interested in actual "real world" use and experience.
There are similar products for repairing small "dings" in flooring, I am wondering if these glue sticks are the same base material.
Tim

 

[jonny round boy]

...and got it from his timber supplier "Whitmores". I dont find this so called "healthy sketiscm" helpfull especially when its coming from people who have never used this system or even witnessed it being used.

Thanks for persisting. Please let us know how it works, I am sure many more than I am interested in actual "real world" use and experience.
There are similar products for repairing small "dings" in flooring, I am wondering if these glue sticks are the same base material.
Tim

I think part of the problem with regard to the scepticism is the term 'glue gun'. It's not a glue gun, it just looks similar (which I guess is why the OP referred to it as such). I'm guessing the sticks are some kind of wax filler rather than adhesive.

 

[jmbfestool]

Just rang the Joiner I saw using the hot melt gun system and had a chat with him. He told me he actually uses this system http://www.konig-uk.co.uk/konigshop/hm220g-professional-melt-filler-p-114.html
and got it from his timber supplier "Whitmores". I dont find this so called "healthy sketiscm" helpfull especially when its coming from people who have never used this system or even witnessed it being used.

I got Konig repair kit its expensive but good!

Based on that if Konig make a " glue gun" filler system I'm pretty sure it will be good!  Its German!

 

[GarryMartin]

I think part of the problem with regard to the scepticism is the term 'glue gun'. It's not a glue gun, it just looks similar (which I guess is why the OP referred to it as such). I'm guessing the sticks are some kind of wax filler rather than adhesive.

Actually, I think they are just glue guns as you can also use "normal" glue sticks in them.

The "filler sticks" appear to be a polymide adhesive with specific properties that make it suitable for the filling of voids etc.

If you take a look at http://www.konig-uk.co.uk/konigshop/melt-filler-sticks-pack-sticks-p-113.html it lists three different types of filler, with different "hardness" and melting points, so I presume any "glue gun" that can work at these temperatures would be suitable - even my cheap Dremel glue gun takes 11/12mm sticks and works at 120 and 195 degrees so *should* be suitable. Might just get hold of a few sticks and give it a try...

813 Series Filler
This range of fillers comprises the following colours; White, Knot, Ash, Pine, Beech & Oak. This is the most flexible of the three different grades of filler and has a melting point of 140°C.  This filler can be sanded after the surplus filler has been removed.

134 Series Filler
This set comprises 4 different colours, Black, Walnut, Pine Light and Mahogany.  It has a higher melting point of 160°C.  This is less flexible than the 813 series but it is a harder compound and slightly easier to cut off.  It can also be sanded using normal abrasives.

162 Series Filler
This is the hardest of the compounds and has been specifically designed for the flooring trade so that excess filler can be removed by belt sanders rather than having to cut surplus filler first using the cutting tool.  It is available in the following colours; Transparent, Mahogany, Rosewood & Wenge.  This filler has a melting point of 190°C.

 

[semenza]

And here is a much lower priced version from the same company that includes an assortment of filler sticks.

http://www.konig-uk.co.uk/konigshop/hm180g-basic-melt-filler-p-117.html

Seth

 

[Michael Kellough]

3M has long made a variety of hot glues with a range of performance characteristics.
This one closest to the Konig product but kudos to Konig for tailoring the color and hardness to specific woodworking situations.

 

[Dangermouse]

Did anyone end up trying these glue sticks?, I've a little job coming up where they might be useful

 

[rmwarren]

I purchased the PAM glue gun to replace a Titebond HiPUR gun that was giving me trouble. The problem was actually with the glue, kept getting old stock that was bad before opening or did not last long once opened. Those cartridges are costly.

http://www.amazon.com/HB220-Adjustable-Temperature-UX8012-Adhesive/dp/B002YGTGWG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415236018&sr=8-1&keywords=hot+glue+gun+pam

It has worked great around the house on wood/plastic/metal, seemingly as good at the HiPUR gun. Only drawback it the new gun is corded, a pain in some situations. This is the glue:

http://www.amazon.com/UX8012-HotMmelt-Adhesive-HB220-16-ounce/dp/B005SGMDJW/ref=pd_sim_hi_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1FQSBVES4VAC61W0PD8K

RMW

 

[jmbfestool]

Did anyone end up trying these glue sticks?, I've a little job coming up where they might be useful

Well I have always used Konig repar fillers which are very good for repairing damage.

When me and Dean went to the W14 we both had a look at the Konig hot melt. They do two guns a cheap one and a more expensive variable setting.

The hot melt filler is brilliant!  I was expecting it be like any other filler like crappy OSMO fillers.

But it ain't its a very very strong glue filler.  It doesn't just fill cracks and gaps it bonds cracks and gaps.  This then ensures the cracks will hopefully not get worse in the future unlike fillers like osmo which just falls out.

They had a piece of oak which was split in two and they used this hot melt glue filler to join it together but leaving a 10mm gap between the two timbers and just filling it full of hot melt filler.

Now me and Dean both tried to break it by jumping on it while having it leant up to try and snap the glue filler.    We both failed.  I'm pretty sure if we kept  going the timber would have broken first.

I am going to buy it my self

http://www.konig-uk.co.uk/konigshop/hm220g-professional-melt-filler-p-114.html

http://www.konig-uk.co.uk/konigshop/hm180g-basic-melt-filler-p-117.html

 

[jmarkflesher]

Can these glue gun filler sticks be used for interior trim finish nail holes?