Grizzly questions, help.

[WarnerConstCo.]

I am looking at a couple used machines.  

This one:

and this one:

They were built in 2002, Four 3/4" shaper cutters, collet adapter and 30 1/2" router bits.

2 new sets of blades and 2 sets that have not been sharpened once.

I am thinking $1100 bucks would be a good price to pay.

gave them a good looking over today, everything that came with them new is there.

 

[stvrowe]

Based on my previous experiences with grizzly purchases I just offer 2 words of advice;  caveat emptor.

 

[jmbfestool]

Based on my previous experiences with grizzly purchases I just offer 2 words of advice;  caveat emptor.

Never heard of that Caveat emptor!  Where did you learn that from.

A warning that notifies a buyer that the goods he or she is buying are "as is," or subject to all defects.

When a sale is subject to this warning the purchaser assumes the risk that the product might be either defective or unsuitable to his or her needs.

This rule is not designed to shield sellers who engage in Fraud or bad faith dealing by making false or misleading representations about the quality or condition of a particular product. It merely summarizes the concept that a purchaser must examine, judge, and test a product considered for purchase himself or herself.

 

[bonesbr549]

I have a lot of green machines  10" TS, 17" BS, 12" jointer, and slot moritcer.  All have been great machines and I would buy them all over again.  The larger machines (such as pictured) I would not have an issue with depending on three things. 

1) age and 2) use, and 3) purchase price relative to the price of new.  Something else to check is wear and tear.  Some folks beat the crap out of machines other take care of them.  If the device has bearing shafts check for runout or slop and indication of bearings going or a warped shaft.  Age of motors can be an issue no matter what brand you buy, but they can be replaced and if the machine is a steal and you buy a motor and you have a good tool for a cheap price.  You are in good shape.  I've been wanting to buy a new sawstop for a while now. Up-until-recently I had no reason to get rid of my grizzly TS with 7' rails.  The only thing thats got me saving for the sawstop is the safety thing so I figure to put mine up for sale next year and will only probably ask for half of purchase price.  In my case as a hobbyist who ever buys my saw will get one heck of a deal, but each case needs careful examination.  An old powermatic that requires a ton of work may not be as good a deal as a new grizzly if you get my drift.    (please don't flame me, I know old tools are great and some old refurbs are fantastic, but sometimes we have to admit it's ok to let go) 

Anyway that's MTCW.  Take care and have a good one!

 

[stvrowe]

Caveat emptor = let the buyer beware.  I had 3 of the geen things and had to fix them all out of the crate.  Never again.

 

[Jesse Cloud]

Hey Bones!
Could you elaborate on the Grizzly slot mortiser?  Which model do you have?  Have you used it much?  How's the cut?  Does it hold settings, etc.  I am thinking about trying to find room in the shop for one of those!
Thanks,
Jess

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

I bailed on the deal today.

I am getting a nused router this week and decided I was maybe settling/impulse buying something I was not ready for or inferior to what I could buy at a later date.

 

[nickao]

You have to do your homework.

I have 4 large Grizzly tools now and in the past and NONE, not one, ever needed any work other than consumables and some Band saw bearings after I used the thing 8 hours a day for 2 years.

If you buy the right Grizzly tools you will have no issues at all. I would not hesitate to buy another at all.

Their small tools are not great, but with the larger industrial tools I have been in the past and still am currently very happy with them.

 

[bonesbr549]

Hey Bones!
Could you elaborate on the Grizzly slot mortiser?  Which model do you have?  Have you used it much?  How's the cut?  Does it hold settings, etc.  I am thinking about trying to find room in the shop for one of those!
Thanks,
Jess

Here is the link it's billed as a horizontal boring machine.  When I went to get the link for you, I noticed that little sucker has gotten more expensive.  I only paid 285 for mine when I bought it.  I has a reliable x and y axis movement and elevation works well. It's not fancy.  To adjust the left right travel, you have an rods underneath the table and set screws to lock the rods into place to control left and right movement.  It's a basic 3450 motor with a drill chuck on it.  You can use end mills or drill bits.  I built a jig to hold the piece at 90 to the bit.  I also put mine on rollers so it could be moved easily (it aint light).  I had always been a fan of floating mortices so it seemed like a good fit and you could not beat the price.  Once I set it up, it never failed me.  I used it till the domino came out and I just had a feeling I would love that tool and was right.  It sits in the corner mostly now only coming out to act as a table top.  To bad you are so far away I'd sell it (less the casters) for a good price.    Again those multirouters out there are prettier, but this one gets it done.    They must have figured out people were buying them for something else and realized they could sell them for more. 

http://www.grizzly.com/products/Single-Spindle-Horizontal-Boring-Machine/G0540

 

[DavidW]

I've had both the shaper and planer, also the horiz. boring machine.
Shaper: bought it used, was OK for the money but had a horrible fence (new ones still use this fence)
Planer: bought it used from a Amish shop with no motor, they had it hooked up to hydraulicl motor that was 30hp and used very hard. It gave me 3 yrs of good service.
Horiz. boring machine: had it for one week and returned it (Grizzle is very good on returns) I tried using it as a slot mortise but found that the table had far too much play. If you grab the table on both sides and rock it, there is far too much movement. I stop in the Pa Grizzle store when I'm at my cabin and the boring machines all seem to have the same problem. Grizzle does not advertise this machine as a slot mortise and a few months ago the owner of Grizzle was asked if they were planing to make a slot mortiser his answere was NO, that's a shame because Grizzle are generally good basic machines.
davew