Hand planing and Festool

Since I started this thread a few months ago I have actually learned a few things :o.  I can pretty effectively plane using my MFT 1080 using a trick I read about on FWW a few days ago.  I clamp the piece so that I can work from the end of the table.  I then put my right foot (I plane left handed) on the horizontal beam between the legs.  As I push forward I shift some weight to my right foot which holds the MFT nicely in place.  It does rack a bit, but not enough to worry about.  This wouldn't work with a really long piece.
 
Mike Chrest said:
J Voos,
won't it leave scallops just like a jointer or planer would? 
Yup, it is the same finish. If you hand plane you still get ridges(along the grain) but those are marks of handwork & that costs extra ;D
Mike

Is it really the same? I thought it would be a little better since the blade is skewed/curved.
 
Michael Kellough said:
Mike Chrest said:
J Voos,
won't it leave scallops just like a jointer or planer would? 
Yup, it is the same finish. If you hand plane you still get ridges(along the grain) but those are marks of handwork & that costs extra ;D
Mike

Is it really the same? I thought it would be a little better since the blade is skewed/curved.

The finish is quite good. There is a helix to the blade which means the area in contact with the work surface is quite small at any give point in time. Scallops will be a product of the speed at which you feed the planer. I like the tool but I think it is a stretch to feel it could completely replace a stationary jointer, even in the hands of a highly skilled practitioner. Of course, even the stationary jointer takes some finesse as well. The 850 does do a great job regarding tearout, probably better than most mortals can ever do with a handplane. I think, in general, the 850 is one of those tools in which a person really needs to invest some practice. Any of us can use a ETS150/3 blindfolded and with one arm tied behind our back, literally, but the 850 is not that kind of tool.
 
clintholeman said:
.....For final planning of a table top or the like, there is nothing like a good hand plane - IMO.

Call me a neanderthal, but there is nothing as satisfying as using a good SHARP hand tool.  Maybe not as fast, but the pleasure can't be beat.

At times, it is easier to grab my GGrand-paps hand saw to cut one board, rather than pull the tools out plug them and well, you get the idea.

Eli, I like the idea of using cement, I was thinking along the same lines. ;D
 
:D Can this be done to music?  :D

Craig Earls said:
Since I started this thread a few months ago I have actually learned a few things :o.  I can pretty effectively plane using my MFT 1080 using a trick I read about on FWW a few days ago.  I clamp the piece so that I can work from the end of the table.  I then put my right foot (I plane left handed) on the horizontal beam between the legs.  As I push forward I shift some weight to my right foot which holds the MFT nicely in place.  It does rack a bit, but not enough to worry about.  This wouldn't work with a really long piece.
 
Steveo48 said:
:D Can this be done to music?  :D

Craig Earls said:
Since I started this thread a few months ago I have actually learned a few things :o.  I can pretty effectively plane using my MFT 1080 using a trick I read about on FWW a few days ago.  I clamp the piece so that I can work from the end of the table.  I then put my right foot (I plane left handed) on the horizontal beam between the legs.  As I push forward I shift some weight to my right foot which holds the MFT nicely in place.  It does rack a bit, but not enough to worry about.  This wouldn't work with a really long piece.

I think it MUST be done to music.
 
Craig,

I've got two small MFTs joined together with a Kapex secured on one - this gives the free MFT plenty of stability for handplaning. If the workpiece is longer than about one metre, I just place it diagonally across the MFT so that the Kapex doesn't get in the way. This is obviously not a very practical solution if you don't already have a second MFT, but it's a great excuse to get one... ;)

Alan
 
Hi Dave,

Sorry - the Kapex is Festool's mitre saw. It's about 21kg (about 46 pounds), so anything of that weight on a second MFT provides enough stability for handplaning (or at least for my needs!). I mentioned this because I had the same problem as Craig and I've seen a few references on the forum by people who seem to have two MFTs. The reason I brought it up is because on the off-chance that Craig does happen to have two, it only costs a few euros/dollars for the little connectors, and the resulting stability is way better. If, like me, he has neither the space nor the money for a massive solid workbench, maybe it's worth considering.

Alan
 
Alan,

I suspect Dave was pulling your leg a bit because the Kapex is just an elusive rumor in the States. We are all waiting, some more patiently than others. Love your green Dominos, BTW. 8)
 
Ahem  :-[  :-[  :-[  :-[, thanks Greg. As we would say in Ireland, you're a gentleman, a scholar, a drinker of fine whiskeys, and a fine judge of character for pointing that out to me. The penny drops...now I finally know what NAINA means...

Dave! What can I say! :-[ If it makes the members of the NAINA Support Group feel any better, many of us Europeans salivate at what's available in the US - I ordered some stuff from Rockler recently and ended up walking under an Autobahn for four hours to find the customs office where they kindly relieved me of a week's salary to liberate a sheet of self-adhesive velvet (NAIE) and some hinges from Brusso (FAIEITPCOM).

Glad you like the green dominos Greg! They certainly gave me a chuckle at the beginning of the work week - let's see how the-boss-without-pierced-ears reacts on Valentine's Day!

All the best for now,

Alan
 
Ok Alan.  I guess misery loves company so that kind of makes us even.  Then are those yanks down under who seem to get the best of everything. (but don't tell Eli).  I for one would be happy to give up Rockler in exchange for Kapex, CMS, belt sander and all the other NAINA Festools!

(Bob,  Where is my Kapex?  Every day I check for the delivery. . .)
 
Yeah, pretty much the only thing I have to do without Down Here is money :'(

It's all been converted to F units.
 
My wife just told me that there is a major trend these days that when an adult child moves to Australia, the parents come to visit, fall in love with the place and end up staying.  Since it appears that my oldest daughter will be moving to Australia shortly ---- who knows?  I may move just for the tools  ;D ;D
 
We're getting off-topic (sorry Brice)

But I'm not surprised. In two weeks my Mom is coming for her second visit within six months, and my Dad (they're divorced) is coming with her and has already decided he'll be spending every winter here, and every summer in Vermont.
 
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