Has anyone seen this workbench?

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I like the Idea of the adjustable height.  At the same time it creates a lot of wasted space where tools can be stored.  What are your thoughts?  I can't get any of the links to work.  Can anyone else?

Jack Bench
 
I have stumbled across it before, and it really looks like a neat idea.  Just a shame that most of the links on the page are broken.
 
If the "new" idea is a workbench with adjustable height, it's not new--ECE sells a mechanism to adjust the height of their really heavy and expensive bench. Traditional woodworkers typically make jigs to raise the work to eye level if necessary.  Festool is moving in that direction with the vacuum clamp system available overseas--looks really fabulous. I guess you just have to be German to get first crack of the cool stuff. 

JF

 
john ferri said:
If the "new" idea is a workbench with adjustable height, it's not new--ECE sells a mechanism to adjust the height of their really heavy and expensive bench. Traditional woodworkers typically make jigs to raise the work to eye level if necessary.  Festool is moving in that direction with the vacuum clamp system available overseas--looks really fabulous. I guess you just have to be German to get first crack of the cool stuff. 

JF

I am German but i'm living in Canada ... so no advantage here  [tongue] [big grin]
 
mwhafner said:
I have stumbled across it before, and it really looks like a neat idea.  Just a shame that most of the links on the page are broken.

this might help,,,,,,,



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Don T said:
I like the Idea of the adjustable height.  At the same time it creates a lot of wasted space where tools can be stored.  What are your thoughts?  I can't get any of the links to work.  Can anyone else?

Jack Bench

Any bench smaller than a massive slab of wood (which is hardly portable) requires bracing to be stable. In this case a plywood panel resists racking but it closes off the underside of the bench. Diagonal braces would allow some storage and resist racking but.....there are always compromises.
 
I actually know the developer of the Jack Bench.  He is an old client of mine from Minneapolis.  I've seen the bench and it is really cool.  But like anything else, the flexibility to raise/lower the top may not be useful to everyone.

JGA.
 
Stoolman said:
I'm not sure what I would need an adjustable table top for.  Actually if you areinterested, there's a guy over on the creek, Alan Shaffter who built his own.  http://videos.americanwoodworker.com/video/Adjustable-Height-Woodworking-B
I like John White's bench made with pipe clamps and features a sweet adjustable planing beam on the side.  "New Fangled Workbench"  You might need to be a member to view.
That is a nice bench.  I don't think I would ever use all that travel.  My thought on the height adjustment would be to adjust it to another tool height as a in-feed or out-feed table or if you are assembling a large cabinet you could lower it to a more comfortable work height and vise versa for a small assembly.
 
Hi, my name is Charlie Kocourek.  I designed and built the bench in the You Tube video posted in this thread, and I am flattered that to see a discussion about it on this forum!  I call it the Jack Bench because it has two scissors jacks built into it.  The first one is used to elevate the bench top and the second one is used to pick the bench up onto a mobile base.  I think the adjustable height feature has many advantages, especially in a small shop.  The built in mobile base is really great if your shop is in a garage or any time you have to move it around.

I did a lot of research before building this and if I could have found a design that I liked better I probably would have used it before I spent the time to develop my own.  Then again, maybe not!  Designing this was actually kind of fun so even if I did find one that I liked I still might have built my own! 

I am familiar with the Noden and the ECE designs.  Both of them are very clever and is seems like people like them, but they are very expensive and like Michael said, there are always compromises.  I think weight and mass are good things in a workbench and of these two designs, I like the ECE much better because you don't have to physically lift the bench up and down. 

Some of the criteria that I had when I designed this were:

? It had to be very solid and sturdy with no wobbling around no matter what!
? It had to have lots of versatility for holding and clamping and I also wanted access to the bottom of the bench top
? The adjustable height mechanism had to be quick and easy to use
? It had to be mobile and the mobility also had to be hassle free

Basically, all the important criteria were all about function and ease of use.

There are opportunities for storage under and on the sides of the bench, but I kept going back to my main criteria and the real reasons for wanting a great work bench.

In my case I can only have one workbench. There is just not enough room in my basement shop for more than one bench so any bench I have must suit all circumstances.

I first thought about building an adjustable height bench because I like to do a little woodcarving and I would get a backache when carving at a standard bench height.  So, I want the bench higher for those kinds of projects. Sometimes higher is also better for detail work like inlays and that sort of thing.

I asked around and those people who actually have adjustable height benches all seemed to agree that it is a worthwhile feature.

Another thing that got me thinking about variable height was that my previous bench was a few inches higher than my table saw. Well, with my limited space the bench and the saw are not very far away from each other.  So, anytime I had to cut a long board the bench got in the way. With the adjustable height feature I can lower the bench to match the saw and that saves a lot of hassle and in my case it also functions as an infeed table.

This is also great for people who share their shop with a spouse, children, or anyone else who is either much taller or much shorter than they are.  It can be lowered down enough to use it for an assembly table, and is great for people with back problems.

I want to apologize for the problems with my website.  It is back up and running now, but there are still a lot of things I want to add to it.  I hope I am better at woodworking than I am at websites!

Since this is the Festool Owner's Group I do have to mention that my Domino saved the day for me when I was attaching the aprons to the top!

Charlie Kocourek
 
Hi Charlie,
I like many of your ideas on the bench.  I would like some storage under the bench because I work out of my garage and have limited space.  I'm still researching and trying to decide what I want and need in a bench.
 
I think the adjustable feature would be great.  It seams that all of my tools are at different heights (most of that is my fault!) so it would be great to be able to use it as a fall-off table for my table saw, router bench, planer, etc.
 
I just wanted to post an update on my bench design and let you know that the plans are finally completed!  

I have also made considerable updates to my website.  Among the updates are that I added several videos.  

In one of the videos I demonstrate operating both the height adjustment and the mobile base with a cordless drill.  In another video I show page by page what is included in a set of bench plans.  There are a few others, too.  One shows how I installed the vises, and another shows my bloopers!

Check it out and please let me know what you think.  I am very interested in your feedback.

Thanks, Charlie

 
When I started, I wanted to build an adjustable height assembly table.  It would be fantastic to have it low for certain assemblies and higher for others. At the time, it would have also been perfectly placed to be an infeed table for either the table saw or drum sander (different heights).  Ultimately, I didn't do it, but I still think about it.  Since my benches are all fixed-height right now, I think a mini joinery bench to place on top for carving or detail work would be my only option.  A lower assembly table could fit in here now as long as I could store it away.

Thanks for the update, Charlie.
 
HI Paul,

Sorry I couldn't get the plans completed before you built your bench.  It took me a long time to get them right!

Thanks, Charlie
 
I have been thinking about how to easily add storage under this bench, and I have come up with a few ideas.

The lower half of the base is 27" wide, the upper half of the base is 18" wide, and the top is 34" wide.  Since the top overhangs the side of the base by 8" on each side I think it would be easy to add (or build in) "cabinets" big enough to store planes and other hand tools without compromising the ergonomics of the bench.

Another potential storage idea is to add drawers just under the bench top.  I left the space under the top open to allow access for holdfasts and other accessories.  It is also there in case I ever have to access the lifting mechanism, but it is possible to add drawers in the open space just under the top. If I did that I would either build them around any holdfasts or I would make sure that I could remove them easily to retain access for holdfasts. There is also room  for a bit of storage at each end of the bench, too.

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Stoolman said:
I'm not sure what I would need an adjustable table top for.  Actually if you areinterested, there's a guy over on the creek, Alan Shaffter who built his own.  http://videos.americanwoodworker.com/video/Adjustable-Height-Woodworking-B
I like John White's bench made with pipe clamps and features a sweet adjustable planing beam on the side.  "New Fangled Workbench"  You might need to be a member to view.

I also really like John White's bench -- very simple, utility and inexpensive.  I like how he has adapted very effective crochets for planning on the front of the bench,
 
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