Has anyone tried to use a Systainer as the dust box for a cyclone?

[Alan m]

Just finished my systainer cyclone, with the help of some photos from Ericbuggeln.

It works great, and I don't find there to be any loss of suction at all. 

Some things I did different than his:

Used the Tanos lid insert (EPP) which is rigid foam/polystyrene
I think this enables the top to be air tight.  I also siliconed the crap out of the joint between the foam, sys lid, and cyclone so there are no leaks.

For the inner box I decided to use cross members as a supports/pulls.  I originally just tacked on some scraps of wood to the inside of my collection box, but found that the lid of the systainer bends in a considerable amount while under full load.  The cross members support the top and act as pulls. 

I used a cheapie home depot (Ridgid) spare hose kit that fit directly into the mini, and a coupling that fit the Fes AS hose to the Dust Deputy. 

 

nicely done. i like the pull out box. very thoughtfull

 

[Vindingo]

Looks like you better put that thing to good use on that floor  [tongue]

Ha!  Today is clean the shop day, and I can't seem to bring myself to do it. 

I can't really tell, but are the nozzles on your Dust Deputy tapered?  I found if I cut 20mm off then the Festool hose fit nice and securely without the need for any adapters.  That way you could get rid of that 90 degree adapter and have your hose coming straight out thus putting less stress on the Dust Deputy nozzle.  I attached some pics in another thread.
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/ultimate-oneida-cyclone-dust-collector-for-festool-vacs/msg213447/#msg213447

That 90* bend is how the Fes hose attaches to the Mini.  It doesn't have a straight inlet like the bigger vacs do.  I guess I could have gotten straight Festool hose connector from a bigger vac that clips on to my 27mm hose, but its $20 I didn't want to throw at this contraption.  If I find that it becomes a pain in the neck, I will definitely keep your suggestion in mind.   

 

[ericbuggeln]

Vinny, I did some tests today and my ct 22 without DD on Sys5 has more suction, BUT the ct 22 with DD on Sys5 has mad suction. I have a board that is marked that the ct 22 could pick up when I first installed the long life bag. The ct 22 with DD on Sys5 couldnt pick up that board, but could pick up one its size that was 1/2 instead of 3/4. Ive been using it for four years and never had a problem with suction, but if I did it again I would use that stock systainer part as Vinny did, keep sucking, Eric

 

[Vindingo]

Eric,

That sounds like a good test.  I will try it tomorrow to see if there how much loss of suction I'm getting. 

I have been using it with the TS55 today, and even if the suction is less, it isn't enough to affect performance. 

 

[Vindingo]

this thread also seems like it would be a good candidate for the Systainer subsection

 

[ericbuggeln]

Vinny, im stoked to see that worked out for you, now clean up that mess, dude! Eric

 

[GuyRogers]

Hello all
I appreciate this is a very old post.
I am very new to festool.

I love this setup by vinny.
Can anyone tell me:
Re dust cyclone…. Can you detach lid and rest upside down in systainer for transport?
Is there a systainer available that I could buy that would have a drawer section underneath for sanding disks storage (in same systainer). I am looking at the dust commander (with mounting seal). Only dims I can find is that it’s 310mm high. It’s prob a copy of the one you are using. I would also buy the pep lid insert by Tanos.  I am in Uk if that makes any difference.
Any help is much appreciated.
Cheers.
Guy

 

[Svar]

Re dust cyclone…. Can you detach lid and rest upside down in systainer for transport?
Is there a systainer available that I could buy that would have a drawer section underneath for sanding disks storage (in same systainer).

Lid is detachable, but not easily. I.e. you won't do it on regular basis without some modification.
There are systainers with a drawer underneath.

 

[Paul_HKI]

Hi Guy,

Welcome to FOG. 

I have a Dust Commander DLX and a newer MK II version of same.  Mine are mounted on drums, but I measured up at one stage after reading this thread, to see what might be involved.

If you want to fit it to a removable top for a Systainer and invert it for storage purposes, you'll need to mount it to a piece of plywood and sit that into the top of an open systainer, likely on a mounting flange of some sort.  You could then lift it out, turn it upside down and close the systainer lid for storage/transportation.

The main thing to note is that the DLX will need a no. 5 sized systainer, without a doubt, if you mount it this way.  The no. 4 size is far too small.

In my case it just wasn't worth the effort and expense.  I just put a separator in each of the two locations where I'd use one.

 

[derekcohen]

Several years ago, I used a Dust Commander into a sealable paint tin, which was secured to a small Systainer on a Festool CT26e ….

The Systainer was useful to store items, such as the transformer for a Mirka Ceros …

Today there is a different type of Systainer on the CT26e …

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[Paul_HKI]

Hi Derek,

Any comments or feedback regarding the comparative performance of the Dust Deputy and Dust Commander separators?  Were they functional equivalents in separation, or did you see any notable differences?  The convenience of the Oneida left aside, I'd be interested in your thoughts as I know you pay attention to such things!

All the best from the home of Mirka,

Paul