Help with Christmas Wish List

GreenGA

GreenGA

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Well, it's that time of the year when, instead of visions of sugar plums, we FOG members have visions of Black & Green in our heads...  On the way to work this morning I was asked what I would like both under the tree and as stocking stuffers.

So, I am here asking what other forum members would ask for if they had the same Festool collection, both new and used, as I.  Which happens to be:

TS55
CT22 w/garage & handle
C12
HL850
RTS400
LS130
DX93
RO150
OF1010 EQ
LR 32-SYS w/42" guide
Domino

My primary usage is home remodeling and, soon, cabinet making (kitchen, etc...)

Help!
 
Interesting...

Why the 150/3 and 1400?  I have the RO150 and the OF1010.

Thanks!

Lessee....

"Dear Santa, I've been a good boy this year and I would like..."  ;)

 
First, the Rotex is hands-down the best sander I have ever used, but I probably use the ETS a little more often.  I think it just does a little better job of fine sanding, a little easier to handle, etc.

I do not own the OF1010, but looked at it when I bought my OF1400.  I prefer to use 1/2" router bits, so I opted of the OF1400.  If all you use is 1/4" or 8mm bits, then there is no need for the larger router.

One item that I omitted, the MFT. 
 
Boom arms changed my entire setup in the shop. Never could live without them again. I have two and another has to be ordered soon.
 
That's a good collection.  To me, the obvious Festool item that is missing is a multi-function table.
 
For mwhafner...

Regarding the ETS/3.  How would you, if you could, rate the ETS/3 against the 400 I have?
I picked up the 1010 used along with the LR Sys & guide rail for some upcoming cabinet projects.  I had... wanted the 1400 but the 1010 came my way at a fair price.  That said, I have been looking for a reason to get that 1400.  So far though...  :-\

For nickao...

I thought about the boom arm but from some/many of the posts it sounds like it would be a slight PITA since I do not have a stationary CT22.  It's always being moved around the room, the floor, outside, etc...  What's your opinion?

For Mr. Jones (is that as in "me and ...?" ;)

I think the Centrotec Kit would be a great addition.  Thanks.
Now, I gotta think about trolley boards and storage.  I have a spare SYS-1 and I use the Stanley carrying-cases for screws/nails/etc... storage. (really can't beat-em for 15.00 at the Borg)

For Frank Pellow...

I do want the MFT/3.  I have an unused, still boxed, MFT-1080 up for sale in the Classifieds section.  I bought the 1080 from Uncle Bob earlier this year but did not get to use it before JR and I attended JLC Live in Rhode Island in, March was it...?  She got to play with the new MFT/3 and saw the 1080 at some other booth(s).  She liked the MFT/3 better and told me to sell the 1080 and get the /3.  Boy, I love that woman.  ;D
 
The ETS 150/3 is a different animal if I had to have one(I have both) I would get the 150/3 in a blink. More aggressive, smoother. The 400 is a detail sander, its a toy compared to the 150/3.

I would not use it if I had to move it around. I have dedicated CT 33 for each boom arm over three top mft 1080's and nothing moves.

I forget i am in a shop environment and many are not. I make my wife park outside even when its 30 below because my tools are more important and I am not moving crap around.

If you had to move it around yeah probably a pain.

 
Then you are sitting pretty, that's a nice combo to have.

Nice avatar!
 
For mwhafner...

Regarding the ETS/3.  How would you, if you could, rate the ETS/3 against the 400 I have?
I picked up the 1010 used along with the LR Sys & guide rail for some upcoming cabinet projects.  I had... wanted the 1400 but the 1010 came my way at a fair price.  That said, I have been looking for a reason to get that 1400.  So far though...

I think that the RTS and ETS are two different animals.  I kinda view the ETS like I would a third setting on the Rotex.  You can probably get the same results with the RTS, but not as quickly.

I use the RTS for the areas I can't reach with my 6" sanders, and between coats of some finishes.  I sometimes wish that I had bought the DTS instead of the RTS.  It can get into tighter places.  You already have the DX93, so you have that covered.

 
GreenGA

Yours is already a great collection, with somewhat greater variety than mine.

I strongly agree with those who recommend the ETS 150/3 sander, although I do not have one.  Due to the home refurbishment projects I first faced, I opted for the RO 125 and thereafter an ETS 125 so I could use the same abrasive supplies.  Now that I am making furniture I find that I use my ETS 125 much more than my RO 125, and also my LS 130.

Where is your MFT?  I have 3 of the older style tables and use them more than any other Festool.

Because you want to make cabinets, a table-mounted router would be a big asset to your collection.  The most cost effective router table setup will probably mean purchase of another (larger) non-Festool router.  I first chose a Freud 13A router due to price and its easily adjustable fixed base design.  The included dust collection nozzle fits both Festool's 27mm and 36mm hoses.  Get a 36mm hose if you don't have one because the 27mm hose clogs much more easily when routing.  I later set up a second in-table router using a PC 7518 - the US industrial standard.  Both of these routers come with 1/2" collets, and enable use of large diameter raised panel profiling bits which cannot be used in Festool's OF 1400 (which I also have and use as my general purpose router).

Dave R.
 
GreenGA said:
For Mr. Jones (is that as in "me and ...?" ;)

I think the Centrotec Kit would be a great addition.  Thanks.
Now, I gotta think about trolley boards and storage.  I have a spare SYS-1 and I use the Stanley carrying-cases for screws/nails/etc... storage. (really can't beat-em for 15.00 at the Borg)
Click to expand...

Not 'Me and Mrs', more keeping up with.... ;)

I've always found the little things make all the difference with festool, and rolling a stack of systainers around is a great asset for me, especially when I'm installing large cabinets. The multi draw systainers are great at that stage too, although they are equally useful for any of the extra bits and pieces needed in the workshop.

Do you think Santa could get a Kapex down the chimney?

 
I have both the RO150 and the 150/3 and I use the 150/3 95% of the time. It's more comfortable to use for long periods of time, doesn't require two hands and is slightly less aggressive which makes it great for all my finish sanding. I only pull out the Rotex for heavy-duty chores. I do love my Rotex, but it's not the right tool for me for most of my sanding tasks. In my mind, these are complimentary tools, not replacements for each other.

The 400 is a nice sander, too, but it's a different animal from the bigger ROS.
 
for wmhafner...

You make a good argument for the ETS/3.  I'll pull out the catalog and have a look-see.  It just may make it to the list and Uncle Bob...

for Dave Ronyak...

I'm going to have a look at the ETS/3.  As for the MFT... I believe I mentioned I have the MFT1080 but never opened it because I was told I should sell it and get the MFT/3.  So, I await that sale before I can get the MFT/3; and boy do I want to get one, RSN...  I know I will need it before Christmas.

Ya know, I actually was thinking about a table mounted router.  I was at a Freud Dog & Pony show a month or two ago and during one demonstration, the Freud rep made some crown molding and I really loved the profile.  Enough so, that I ordered the two router bits necessary to make the profile.  Of course, I do not have a router large enough to use those bits, but that's a trivial matter.  Your mentioning it reminded me...  Thanks.

Oh, I just remembered...  Another forum member is selling off his tool collection and one of the items in his list was a Fox Shaper.  It looked nice and a review or two said some nice things about it but we soon discovered the shipping was a deal killer.  So, I guess I am back to a table mounted router.

So, of the PC or Freud, which do you prefer and why?

for nickao...

So, you like the avatar, huh.  That's JR.   ;D Her first husband, who I thank almost daily for being a total idiot for letting her go, was a great photographer.  You should see some of the shots he took.  Of course, that shot is not recent.  And although the years have made me look like her father :'(, she still looks great and attacks much attention.

for Mr. Jones... (sorry, I could not resist the "me and..." reference)

I think there could be a Kapex under the tree if I let it be known I needed one.  However, and I guess I should have included it in the list of tools I have, I already have a DeWalt 708 (pre-laser sight) SCMS mounted on a Rigid CMS mobile stand (great combination I must say).  I guess the Kapex would be a "better" CMS, but at this stage I could probably use something else.

Also, other tools I forgot to mention at the beginning.

Hitachi 4000 CTS with 9000 self-lifting mechanism (another great combo)
Every pneumatic nailer necessary, except for a pin-nailer.
Above powered by an Emglo "portable" compressor

I also like your idea of "the small things".  Perhaps I could get a list of these items and suggest them as stocking stuffers.

for everyone else...

In a private email, another forum member mentioned that if I had intentions of building tall cabinets/bookcases, I may want to consider asking for a longer guide, than the 42" I have, for the LR32 Sys.  That's not a bad idea.  One of the first cabinets I will be building is something for the dressing room and it will be just shy of 72".

 
What do you want for the 1080? I am possibly willing Cash or Trade for a completed inlay.

Oh and sorry did not know it was the wife!

Nick
 
I have a similar group of core tools.  Two items I have that you do not is the MFT1080 and the jointing system VS 500.  Yes--500--I'm dating myself.  If you would like to do some cabinetmaking, a jointing system might be the way to go.  There would be a learning curve, but if you stick with it, the jig is worth the expense.

IMO, the mft is a luxury.

JF
 
Actually, every Festool is a luxury to me. I worked years and years with skill, craftsman, Porter cable, etc and the end results came out just as nice.

But no one else makes an mft table so to me it is one of the Festools you should get , you can get almost any other tool Festool sells for less money, but the MFT is their baby, so I would get an mft.

As far as Festool is concerned I do not consider the mft a luxury at all, but a major part of the Festool system. If you do not use one I believe you are missing out on a lot.

Once I got and used one I was hooked, before I used it I thought nothing of it, just a table with holes. It's more than that.
 
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