Here' s an idea for Festool and it's so damn simple

[sicd_steve]

The thing that really. Bugs me when I am. Changing from Philips Head screws and Pozidrive screws is that the centro bits the gold ones both have same damn GREEN rubber ring so you have to get out the magnifying glass and read the smallest writing known to man on the bit to see what it is.....why didn't they use a BLUE ring on one and a GREEN RING  on the other that way you can see at a glance the correct bit.......jeez it ain't rocket science you can tell the designers don't make anything in wood.

Just that is so blindingly simple

 

[jonny round boy]

They're both green because they're Festool.

Why do you need to read the writing to tell which is which? Just look at the bit, it's easy to tell them apart - Pozidrive have the intermediate ribs, Philips don't.

 

[SMJoinery]

Hey I don't blue rings on my Festool stuff it will spoil my theme!!

 

[Deansocial]

If you cant tell them apart at a glance then you need glasses.

 

[jonny round boy]

If you cant tell them apart at a glance then you need glasses.

[big grin]

I tried to be a bit more subtle than that...

[big grin]

 

[sicd_steve]

Hey guys I know what the screws look like [scared] they are distinct enough it's the damn screw bit that's the issue they look the damn same until you try and fit it in the screw. Anyway I can see

 

[joiner1970]

Nope you're blind lol.

I must admit I've never had a problem telling the difference by eye myself.

 

[Sparktrician]

If that really bugs you that much, move to Torx screws (or Robertson, if you want to be really obtuse). 

[poke]  [doh]

 

[GarryMartin]

Hey guys I know what the screws look like [scared] they are distinct enough it's the darn screw bit that's the issue they look the darn same until you try and fit it in the screw. Anyway I can see

The bits are quite distinctive too.

If the "blade" of the bit is the same width for the ground length, it's a PZ bit. If the "blade" flares out towards the bottom, it's a PH bit.

PZ2 bit on the left, PH2 bit on the right in the photo below.

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[Deansocial]

If you cant tell them apart at a glance then you need glasses.

[big grin]

I tried to be a bit more subtle than that...

[big grin]

Sorry jonny, that is something i lack in lol

 

[ifit]

put a bit of blue tape round it (or red)

Its that dam simple

 

[Tinker]

The bits all look the same to me too.  until I look at the end that fit into the screw  [poke]
Tinker

 

[Paul G]

That's one thing I very much appreciate about GRK screws (besides the fact they are plain awesome), each pack comes with a star bit and each size has a unique color and the box has a corresponding color star on it. Green, red or gold bit so far and there are probably other sizes I have yet to get. Easy to find the right bit and communicate past language barriers.

 

[sicd_steve]

Thanks iFit that's a good idea., with the tape I don't work all day with screws to keep comparing which is slightly longer or shorter. My argument was to keep it simple and clearer  by picking up the bit with the different Color I know which one it is EASY.....but it seems that professionals don't need too.

But it appears other companies like G screws felt it was an idea as well by what I just saw.

Any suggestion to improve user friendliness is warranted in my opinion.....Nokia once told Apple we know how to build  phones you just go and make computers like you do. They said Apple didn't know a thing about phones.....so Apple retaliated by building a phone from the ground up and what a phone it is......screw the attitude of Nokia. Just because it is, doesn't mean it can't be better. Festool aren't perfect it's just that there is no Apple out their in the tool world to shake them up.

And after all it is as simple as a small rubber band colour.....one green and one blue what's the big deal and no extra cost?

 

[wow]

AS long as it doesn't conflict with something else, why not just use a  rubber 'o' ring to mark one or the other. You can also get different color rings for different applications - like refrigeration - and thus establish your own system.

I'm posting this on an iPad so I can't add pictures right now, but I will add them later if needed.

 

[sicd_steve]

Thanks Gary Martin for your kind explanation

 

[AlexThePalex]

I don't think Gary's explanation really hits it.

The distinction between Philips and Pozi is so darn easy.

A Phillips bit has four wing/tabs whatevah you wanna call it.

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A Pozidrive bit has eight wing/tabs, with four smaller added between the four the Phillips already has.

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I find it very easy to distinguish between them and would not need a special marker added to the bit.

 

[mwildt]

If you want to have the stamped text be easier to read you could try to rub some paint on it then wipe it off. Sometimes the groves catches just enough paint to make it readable. Then let it dry. Or you could try a crayon that works as well.

 

[teocaf]

borrow some blue nail polish from your or your neighbor's teenage daughter. 

 

[wow]

I'm home now. Here's a kit of 50 each color 1/4" rubber 'o' rings:

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Link:

http://www.etsy.com/listing/177451201/16ga-14-rubber-o-rings-multi-color-kit?ref=related-1