Horizontal raised panel bit with Router Table

[Carnerro]

Hello,

This is my first post so please be gentle  [wink]

I purchased the router table and the OF 1400 router. I tried to use my flat raised panel bit on it with the fence mounted on and found that the neck of the dust extraction is too small for the bit size. I used some shims to get myself the 3 passes but found out that the dust extraction does not work very well this way. I did not really expect that it would but it was really bad.

Question

Did anyone attempt to do the raised panels with the dust hood mounted and the slider table attached? I think I can get decent stability on the panel and the last cut will be against the roller anyway. Or should I just forget it and get a vertical bit? I like the fact that I get a back cutter and don't need to do another cut so it will be a bit of a pain but if that's the answer...

Thanks in advance.

 

[Rick Christopherson]

When you say the neck is too narrow, are you referring to the fence faces? You need to loosen the limit screw on the back of the fences to achieve full movement. The faces should move the full width of the dust collection port opening. I have set this up with a panel raiser that is the absolute maximum size that can be used with the OF1400.

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[Rick Christopherson]

Oh by the way, these limit screws are discussed in the Supplemental Manual, which you can download here: http://www.waterfront-woods.com/festool/CMS_RouterTable.pdf

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[Carnerro]

That is not where the problem is occurring. I had no issues with the fence guards, they work fine. In the picture you posted between the 8 and 7 inch marks there is a piece of aluminum that is flat on the table. The actual neck where the dust extraction is happening is not exactly symmetrical with the left part (oriented on the picture)  is slightly more forward and in. The bit cutter is hitting that left side.

If I move the fence back far enough to allow the bit to operate it is actually more then fully exposed; the fence is 1/4" back from the face of the bearing. I literally cannot line-up the fence with the bearing without the bit hitting the fence.

I started the project already and will finish it with the bit I got, this is more in line of what I do in the future.

Thanks for the response, any additional information is appreciated.

 

[tjbnwi]

Auxiliary fence. I've had to add up to 2.

The bit in the CMS is 3.625".

I use the slider for support.

Tom

 

[Carnerro]

Thanks Tom. I saw your response to the 2200 router question later and was trying to figure out how to remove my post

I use several shimmies but will probably make 2-3 fences. I am using the same bit as in your pictures and it gives off a lot of dust, but then I am using a small dust extractor, so that is probably 90% of the problem.

Thanks again for the answer

 

[tjbnwi]

This set up collects almost all the dust.

Tom

 

[Sparktrician]

That is not where the problem is occurring. I had no issues with the fence guards, they work fine. In the picture you posted between the 8 and 7 inch marks there is a piece of aluminum that is flat on the table. The actual neck where the dust extraction is happening is not exactly symmetrical with the left part (oriented on the picture)  is slightly more forward and in. The bit cutter is hitting that left side.

If I move the fence back far enough to allow the bit to operate it is actually more then fully exposed; the fence is 1/4" back from the face of the bearing. I literally cannot line-up the fence with the bearing without the bit hitting the fence.

I started the project already and will finish it with the bit I got, this is more in line of what I do in the future.

Thanks for the response, any additional information is appreciated.

 

I just filed that protrusion off, since it didn't have a clearly-identifiable purpose.  Dust collection works every bit as well as before, and I can use my 3-3/8" diameter, 15° bit quite nicely. 

 

[KevinH]

Festool Europe's page on the CMS-OF states- "Max. cutter diameter 60 mm". which could explain that the fence was designed to exclude the use of larger bit sizes?

Their description of the OF220 also states "Stationary routing of up to Ø 60 mm with the TF 2200 table router"

 

[sancho57]

hmm , I got a big honkin panel bit, Im gonna have to see if it fits.

Havent used it yet. Give me something to do when I get home (on the road for a couple of days) .

I think the 2200 would handle any size bit. I know my old PC 7518 would