House full of custom cabinets

Sparky977

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This is my first entire house cabinet job, officially launching my cabinet company, Mirus Custom Cabinetry.  Mirus is Latin for "wonderful, astonishing, extraordinary."  I've built cabinets and built-ins before, but not the entire house.  There were 140 running feet of cabinetry in this house!  Lets just say, I learned a LOT on this job, and not all of them happy lessons (aka, I charged WAYYYYYY too little).

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Lockers

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Master Bath

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Shared bath

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Kitchen

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Mantel

The boxes for the cabinets are all 3/4 maple plywood, with 1/2 ply backs.  Face frames are maple, pocket screwed together, and Domino'd to the box to avoid visible fasteners.
Drawers are all dovetailed, 5/8 maple, with 1/2 maple ply bottoms.  Blum Tandem with Blumotion for the drawer guides.
Maple doors, some with traditional raised panel, some Shaker style. 1 1/4 overlay hinges.
The island has chamfered corner posts.  The navy blue paint finish is also distressed.  Also, the granite on the island is probably one of the most beautiful pieces I've seen.

Used the Rotex sander for sanding.
The TS55 made cutting all the plywood down to manageable sizes much easier.

There are more pictures of this job, along with others I have done, athttp://flickr.com/photos/slconstruction/sets/72157601423123942/

The pictures posted here were taken by www.coastline-studios.com.

Hope you all enjoy.
Sparky
 
Fantastic job Sparky. I can tell you have a real passion for you work. With the quality of work you do, don't sell yourself short when you bid the work. Just tell the customer what I say "The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the cheap price is forgotten" A more clever way of saying "You get what you pay for" By what I can tell, you shouldn't have any trouble getting a top price. Great job.
 
Bill Wyko said:
Fantastic job Sparky. I can tell you have a real passion for you work. With the quality of work you do, don't sell yourself short when you bid the work. Just tell the customer what I say "The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the cheap price is forgotten" A more clever way of saying "You get what you pay for" By what I can tell, you shouldn't have any trouble getting a top price. Great job.

Thank you!  I will definitely have to remember that line.  :)
 
Sparky,
  Took the slide show and wow!! Nice photos but real beauty is in your woodwork. Every piece is a fabulous work of art.
 
Really fantastic looking work there. A friend recently has his whole house redone, but it was kind of "on the cheap." Still the numbers bandied about were dizzying, and it didn't look nearly as good as this. Hope you didn't charge too little for it.

Pedro
 
Beautiful work.

Don't intend to hijack the thread, but the design of the tub seems like a serious injury waiting to happen with the sharp edges located near a very high step and faucet and handles at the entry point.
 
rjfarel said:
Beautiful work.

Don't intend to hijack the thread, but the design of the tub seems like a serious injury waiting to happen with the sharp edges located near a very high step and faucet and handles at the entry point.

Yeah, I've never understood why this builder always has his tubs with the faucet on the entrance side.  I have worked on 4 houses for him, and they are all the same.  Actually, there are quite a few things that this builder does that drives me nuts, but that is an entirely different topic and I don't need to get my blood pressure up today.  :)
 
Wow, quite a bit of work there, I'm sure.  How long did you spend from start to paycheck on this?
 
I have between 500 and 600 hours into this, that includes installation.  Being that it was my first full house cabinet project, that number is probably skewed by time thinking about how to do things.  :)  Hopefully the next project will be quicker.  Of course, I never fell like I get things done quickly enough.  Its that constant struggle between efficiency and utmost quality.  I want to get things done quickly, but not at the risk of quality.
 
sparky,nice work!
500-600 hours? sometime it feels like eternity!
i have a few question if it's ok.
did you or do you have any helpers?
i noticed on the pics that you had your equipment set up inside the house? looks to me that it was a new house,did you have any problem with power?
what type of paint/finish did you use on the bookshelf?  look like you sprayed the unit on site,what kind of sprayer did you use?i allways had problem with doing finishing on the job site.dust was my nightmare!!!!
i'm a one man show,and i use to be in charge of a shop,i had access anytime,but it got shut down.
i have a garage,but it is way too small for me to build a whole kitchen.so i am sticking to small jobs/bookshelf type of work.
did you do most of your work at the job site?  build?  finishing?
are you ready to do it again? ;)
 
mastercabman said:
sparky,nice work!
500-600 hours? sometime it feels like eternity!
i have a few question if it's ok.
did you or do you have any helpers?
i noticed on the pics that you had your equipment set up inside the house? looks to me that it was a new house,did you have any problem with power?
what type of paint/finish did you use on the bookshelf?  look like you sprayed the unit on site,what kind of sprayer did you use?i allways had problem with doing finishing on the job site.dust was my nightmare!!!!
i'm a one man show,and i use to be in charge of a shop,i had access anytime,but it got shut down.
i have a garage,but it is way too small for me to build a whole kitchen.so i am sticking to small jobs/bookshelf type of work.
did you do most of your work at the job site?  build?  finishing?
are you ready to do it again? ;)

Right now, its just me, no helpers.  I need to fix that if things get busy.  I should have had helpers on that job, but that is another long story that I won't get into.

This house, the only time I had tools there was during installation.  I had my MFT3 and my Bosch miter saw.  Other projects that are on my Flickr page, yes, I did do everything on site.  No problems with power, as my table saw is only 1.75 hp.  I didn't wire it for 220 just so I could take it to the jobsite.  That was because I was trimming the houses too at that time, so I had to do everything there.  This house I posted here, everything was built at my shop. 

I didn't do any of the finishing.  I have a friend who also did the painting on most of the jobs shown on my flickr page who does my finishing.  His name is Rolly Wilcox, and he does an amazing job of making my work look good!  He has a couple different sprayers.  I know he just got a new Graco HVLP sprayer that is amazing.  Not sure of the model number or anything.
I believe the bookshelf you are talking about is the black built-in units beside the stone fireplace?  It was finished on site.  The copper accent/distressing was applied after the fact, freehand, by Rolly.  It looks stunning in person.  When he sprayed the units, he basically built a plastic room around them to control dust.

I am very ready to do it again.  I am currently working on a website that I'm hoping will really help get my name out there, and I'm trying to get other builders to take a look.  Unfortunately, the economy here in Michigan is HORRENDOUS and work is kinda slow at the moment.  Waiting to hear back about another cabinet job, but budget may price me out of that one.  We will see.
 
Nice job on the cabinets Sparky. I'd like to be your apprentice! ;D

Dan Clermont

 
Sparky,

A lot of the work looks really good.  Congrat's on getting the business kicked off and getting a pay check.  You're going to do great.  I for one like how there are different finishes.  We are not big fans of having all the cabinets in the house matching with the same wood/finish.  Did all the flooring go in first or something in the kitchen?  I don't see any qtr rnd or shoe at the bottom of the kitchen cabinets.  Again great job and you should be really proud of what you've done.   

Constructive Feedback...  Read it only if you really want to...

Kitchen
      Of course you're at the Mercy of the customer and if they don't give the freedom, then what the heck.  When I look at the cabinets around the window they just look too crowded.  The kitchen cabinets are too close to the window.  The window trim and cabinets and trim are very near each other.  Try to leave 3"-4" around obstacles such as this.  The upper cabinets to the right of the window should be the same size.  See how one door is bigger than the other (should be more balanced)?  My opinion is the island should not have had a toe space.  Especially with the over hang you have for the bar side.  It looks more like furniture if you flush it out and install a nice base molding around it.  Those separate toe spaces are just hard to clean and easily trap debris.  What height is everything set at?  Looks like the uppers are higher than 54".  Of course I can't tell in the photo's but you need to be careful with reach there.  I know you didn't have anything to do with it, but I would want to shoot the electrician that would put so many boxes in the back splash of such a nice house.  What a cluttered mess with all those single boxes.  Sure you want things to be handy and you have to meet code but that's silly.  But I would never install a freestanding range in a house like that either.

Master Bath 
      Doing a full height door at a sink is up to you.  Most people would rather not open a cabinet and see the bottom side of a sink but in most cases that's ok.  That door is way too wide though.  You can't even stand there and open it.  If the size of the sink requires that large of a sink base, ok, but they should have been butt doors.  You really have to think through "drawer" to "full height door" to "door and drawer combo" applications.  Things need to look appealing and the whole scenery needs to have a flow to it.  Again something the customer must dictate, but you can suggest.  The drawers look too crowded at the tub.  They probably still open ok but you've got a pinch point there. 

Shared Bath
Where's the drawer bases?  Where's a girl or young woman to keep their blow dryer or or curling iron.  I don't quite understand the handle placement on the drawers or why those huge doors line up in the center of the sink false front.  It's a very confusing cabinet to look at.  I don't know what went into design so who knows.

    A lot of people can build stuff.  It's a lot more work to design something that is functional as well as good looking and long lasting.  We aren't perfect either but you really have to work with the customer on each job to ensure their needs are being met (short and long term).  We don't like when people get a year or two down the road and go, " Oh, I didn't realize that was like that", or " I wonder why they did it that way".  You can't make everyone happy, but if you go over enough about how things can be done and more importantly WHY they are done that way you'll get much referral work.  We have so many customers that just go on and on thanking us for telling them NOT (talking them out of it) to do something they were thinking about doing and the reason/s behind it. 

Chris...

     
 
"Any fool can criticize condemn and complain and most fools do" - Dale Carnegie

Mirko
 
Mirko,
You know I respect you a great deal. I think you are being a little harsh with Chris. I know compliments and edification are great and I enjoy giving them and receiving them. But if all we say, when someone posts some work,"Great job, looks great!, and BTW what finish did you use?" We do all a dis-service. You cant learn from compliments. They feel good but that is about it. I want to hear how I could do it better the next time around. I ask for constructive comments on my threads and feel that if we cant post constructive comments than what is the point.

Eiji

Chris,

You could have been a little gentler with your comments.

Eiji
 
Eiji,

I just don't like to see people who are starting out to be criticized like that publicly, I would have just sent him a PM.

Sparky is very proud of what he built or he wouldn't have posted the picks, these pics will be a great tool for him, his customers will point out what they don't like. (they always do) besides he will learn on his own with time, what works well or looks good.

And as for you! :) I'm having a free for all on your next job you post ha! ha! so look out ;)

Mirko

 
Mirko said:
Eiji,

I just don't like to see people who are starting out to be criticized like that publicly, I would have just sent him a PM.

Sparky is very proud of what he built or he wouldn't have posted the picks, these pics will be a great tool for him, his customers will point out what they don't like. (they always do) besides he will learn on his own with time, what works well or looks good.

And as for you! :) I'm having a free for all on your next job you post ha! ha! so look out ;)

Mirko

Mirko,

I see your point, but I think it is much faster if you can put the pride aside and learn on someone elses time. I think a PM would save the pride for one but would not help anyone else. This is a forum where we all come to learn.  Constructive comments, critical or not, help everyone that should read them more than the attaboys.

I hope you give me some good ones. ;D

Eiji
 
Ok here is something the positive posters should learn, that will help them sound more convincing!  :P

Honest praise should include a explanation of a detail that you single out as the deciding factor, that warrants a positive post.
I'll even give you an example  ;D

Sparky,

You didn't waste any time, you jumped right in with a big one! you must be glad its over? well done
I really like the shared bath vanity. False fronts are a pain in the butt, not here, I think you utilized the space well, usually I'm turned off by drawer fronts that do not line up with the doors, not here I think it looks good, and it definitely spruces it up, last thing you want is that kitchen look in the bathroom.
If you had the chance to build one of these again, try adding dummy legs with a recessed kick behind to give it a free standing look, then it will look like furniture. and take away that modular appearance, for a more built in look.
best of luck

Mirko

 
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