Dovetail65 said:No disrespect meant at all, but doesn't blowing the dust off just move the dust into the air so it settles somewhere
Dovetail, I was not implying that you have something against Jesse, just that I wasn't sure anyone saw the outdoor part of his post.Dovetail65 said:That makes no sense to me. Drag everything outside to blow it off then drag it back inside? I guess we all work different, whatever works I guess. It just seems on a Festool forum where everything is about containing dust using compressed air to blow around dust goes against the grain at best and is deadly at worst(using the woods I use even outside I would not blow the dust around).
If it does not matter where the dust goes why bother collecting the dust or using dustless tools at all then? I find it hard to believe someone drags all their projects outside and blows them off through all 4 seasons. And I don't care if I am in the house or shop, I hate that fine coat of dust all over my stuff from using a compressor and my lungs don't like it either.
I am not posting against Jesse personally at all. I am posting against the practice of using compressed air for blowing dust around in general. Dust I try so hard to suck up and keep out of my gardens, off my plants, out of my shop and out of my lungs.
I love shellac and for me its my go to finish. And I agree, it's really easy to work with it around dust![]()
Dovetail65 said:That makes no sense to me. Drag everything outside to blow it off then drag it back inside? I guess we all work different, whatever works I guess. It just seems on a Festool forum where everything is about containing dust using compressed air to blow around dust goes against the grain at best and is deadly at worst(using the woods I use even outside I would not blow the dust around).
If it does not matter where the dust goes why bother collecting the dust or using dustless tools at all then? I find it hard to believe someone drags all their projects outside and blows them off through all 4 seasons. And I don't care if I am in the house or shop, I hate that fine coat of dust all over my stuff from using a compressor and my lungs don't like it either.
I am not posting against Jesse personally at all. I am posting against the practice of using compressed air for blowing dust around in general. Dust I try so hard to suck up and keep out of my gardens, off my plants, out of my shop and out of my lungs.
I love shellac and for me its my go to finish. And I agree, it's really easy to work with it around dust![]()
PaulMarcel said:I buy bags of microfiber cloths and use them all the time in the shop. They are like a tack cloth without the resins that could foul up your finish depending on its chemistry and they aren't all the same. New microfiber cloths grab really well; after several washings, they just get used in the shop as a great pickup cloth, but not for finished projects.
Sometimes I wipe down with a cloth dampened with mineral spirits or naptha if I'm using a water-based finish and am concerned about greasy fingerprints (damn chips and salsa in the shop...) For a solvent-based finish, the solvent will dissolve the fingerprints into the project. For many water-based finishes, the water carrier won't like a greasy fingerprint, but the emulsion the water carries has solvent in it that won't care much about the fingerprint. Not that it is relevant, but thought to toss that out.
I do blow out my garage shop from time to time with a leaf blower, but never before finish.
PaulMarcel said:Sometimes I wipe down with a cloth dampened with mineral spirits or naptha if I'm using a water-based finish and am concerned about greasy fingerprints (damn chips and salsa in the shop...) For a solvent-based finish, the solvent will dissolve the fingerprints into the project. For many water-based finishes, the water carrier won't like a greasy fingerprint, but the emulsion the water carries has solvent in it that won't care much about the fingerprint. Not that it is relevant, but thought to toss that out.
I do blow out my garage shop from time to time with a leaf blower, but never before finish.
SRSemenza said:PaulMarcel said:I do blow out my garage shop from time to time with a leaf blower, but never before finish.
Bill Murray style [thumbs up]
Is there a particular brand / type of microfiber cloth you are using?
Seth
zapdafish said:when you blow out the chips that landed on the floor, how do you get rid of the grease?
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PaulMarcel said:zapdafish said:when you blow out the chips that landed on the floor, how do you get rid of the grease?
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I religiously follow the 5-second rule; that kind of mess won't happen! No chip left behind...
sgryd said:Microfiber rags does a great job. Sometimes it's better to lightly dampen the rag first.
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"Air gun".. isn't that painting equipment? Pardon my English. I mean the handle that sits at the end of the air hose with which you blow air. What's it callled?
jc said:Also, if you use a brush on a vac, recommendations on any particular brush with softer or non-marring bristles is also appreciated.
Michael Kellough said:![]()
This Miele SUB20 brush is the best I've used. The mostly natural bristles get down into finer pores to knock dust out than can synthetic bristles and the natural bristles stay straight.
The brush is light weight and has soft corners (it even has a soft rubber bumper around the perimeter) so it doesn't dent wood as much as other brushes.
The only things I don't like are the articulating feature (I just kill that with tape) and the cost.
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To wipe off the dust that remains I use a Norton micro-fiber cloth. The woven red version is the only one that works on raw wood. The short nap pile versions leave behind micro-fluff.
Sometimes the micro-fiber cloth leaves behind some fine dust when sanding between coats. It's probably too fine to worry about but I find wiping the surface with a nitrile gloved hand get that off.
If it's like the one I bought from Miele, then yes Ron, nice fit with a standard 27mm hose end. I keep my brush next to my Dust Deputy with Velcro tape. Mine is the small round brush, looks like MK's is rectangular but made in a similar fashion like most things from MieleRonWen said:Michael Kellough said:![]()
This Miele SUB20 brush is the best I've used. The mostly natural bristles get down into finer pores to knock dust out than can synthetic bristles and the natural bristles stay straight.
The brush is light weight and has soft corners (it even has a soft rubber bumper around the perimeter) so it doesn't dent wood as much as other brushes.
The only things I don't like are the articulating feature (I just kill that with tape) and the cost.
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To wipe off the dust that remains I use a Norton micro-fiber cloth. The woven red version is the only one that works on raw wood. The short nap pile versions leave behind micro-fluff.
Sometimes the micro-fiber cloth leaves behind some fine dust when sanding between coats. It's probably too fine to worry about but I find wiping the surface with a nitrile gloved hand get that off.
There are several Amazon reviews with the same complaint -- apparently it just spins too freely for any practical use. Maybe squeeze a little epoxy into the joints?
Does it match up well with Festool 27mm hose?