How old is a TS55 if it doesn’t have a plug it cord?

[smyrnaboy93]

Hi all,

I’m fairly new to this group.  I have a couple vacuums and sanders for my shop but I don’t break down sheet good often and haven’t needed a track saw.  Well that has changed as I need to install some cabinets.  I found a used ts55 but it has the old body style and is corded.  $550 for the saw, guide rail, theee blades and a couple screw clamps.  It seems high if the saw is pretty old.  Any advice would be appreciated.

 

[serge0n]

What you found is probably ATF 55, not a TS 55.

ATF 55 is a very good saw, but asking $550 for the package is bonkers. It was replaced with TS 55 what, 10-12 years ago? I don't know if Festool stopped ATF 55 sales immediately after the TS 55 release, but that saw is 10 years old at best. Most likely 15-20 years old.

If you have time, wait until a TS 55 shows up at festoolrecon.com, you will spend a comparable amount, but will get a much newer saw with 1 year warranty. If you buy it there without a guide rail and want to keep your expenses to the minimum, buy a Makita guide rail, as the saw should be fully compatible with it and it costs much less than Festool's version.

 

[AlexThePalex]

What sergeOn says is right, so run away from this ridiculous deal and never look back.

 

[Corwin]

The ATF55 was last sold in 2005. The Guide Rail that came with that saw is also the older version that only has the one T-slot on the underside of the rail -- the newer FS/2 Guide Rails have a second T-slot that is located on the top.

The ATF55 with Guide Rail had a list price in 2005 of $410.

 

[smyrnaboy93]

Thanks all.  She referred me to one of her friends who is trying to sell a TS55 for $650.  I've bought a couple Festool products used before but never so close to the retail cost.  Thank you all for your guidance!

 

[leakyroof]

Thanks all.  She referred me to one of her friends who is trying to sell a TS55 for $650.  I've bought a couple Festool products used before but never so close to the retail cost.  Thank you all for your guidance!

  The other dead giveaway that you are looking at the now old ATF55 is this, it will have 2 LEDs mounted on top that are your guide to how the tool is working. They look cheesy esp compared to the later TS55 saws, but work.... [embarassed]
If you're a Dr. Who fan, you feel right at home with them.... [poke]

 

[Michael Kellough]

I bought a new ATF 55 E Plus FS (1200 watts) in early 2003.

55 refers to the maximum depth of cut at 90*.
E refers to electronic variable speed control.
FS is I think the designation for Fast Fix removable power cord.

The 2003 catalog listed two plunge cut circular saws.
The other one was the AT 65 E Plus FS (1400 Watts).
It too had a removable power cord.

A couple of years later (before the ATF 75 was released) I bought an older used AT 65 E (1400 Watts). It’s liable said Festo rather than Festool and it had a fixed power cord.

That old Festo saw still works great. It’s not an issue at all that the power cord doesn’t come off.

 

[Laminator]

ATF 55 + rail +MFT 1080 was my first festool purchase. My 55" rail was the "mark 2" style and it was a year or two before the "ts55" with the double bearing was introduced.  I still use the ATF saw occasionally but it has been mostly replaced by the TS55 in the shop and by Mafell MT55 in the van. 

 

[JFelchlin]

It’s real easy to tell the age of a TS 55.
It’s older than 3-4 years - If it’s never had to go to Festool Service -
And still works as advertised and expected. [wink]
Plz note tongue firmly in cheek. [big grin]

BTW...
The “new” TS 55 REQ that I “scored” on Festool’s Recon Sale - And came DOA...
Still hasn’t been returned by Festool Service. [sad]

 

[sancho57]

Thanks all.  She referred me to one of her friends who is trying to sell a TS55 for $650.  I've bought a couple Festool products used before but never so close to the retail cost.  Thank you all for your guidance!

That a lot of cash for a used TS 55.Check out the recon sale. You’ll get a nice one with a warranty for a lot  less than that

 

[Gregor]

FS is I think the designation for Fast Fix removable power cord.

FS is usually the code for 'rail included' (FührungsSchiene).

 

[Coen]

The ATF55 was last sold in 2005. The Guide Rail that came with that saw is also the older version that only has the one T-slot on the underside of the rail -- the newer FS/2 Guide Rails have a second T-slot that is located on the top.

The ATF55 with Guide Rail had a list price in 2005 of $410.

The new rails are from 2004 (?). Either way I bought a OF1010 in 2004 and when I got home I found out I had the old rail. I exchanged it for the new rail at no cost, since that was what was in the promotion anyway.

I bought a new ATF 55 E Plus FS (1200 watts) in early 2003.

55 refers to the maximum depth of cut at 90*.
E refers to electronic variable speed control.
FS is I think the designation for Fast Fix removable power cord.

The 2003 catalog listed two plunge cut circular saws.
The other one was the AT 65 E Plus FS (1400 Watts).
It too had a removable power cord.

A couple of years later (before the ATF 75 was released) I bought an older used AT 65 E (1400 Watts). It’s liable said Festo rather than Festool and it had a fixed power cord.

That old Festo saw still works great. It’s not an issue at all that the power cord doesn’t come off.

I've never heard of an ATF 75. As far as I know the first Festool '75' was the TS75.

 

[Corwin]

The ATF55 was last sold in 2005. The Guide Rail that came with that saw is also the older version that only has the one T-slot on the underside of the rail -- the newer FS/2 Guide Rails have a second T-slot that is located on the top.

The ATF55 with Guide Rail had a list price in 2005 of $410.

The new rails are from 2004 (?). Either way I bought a OF1010 in 2004 and when I got home I found out I had the old rail. I exchanged it for the new rail at no cost, since that was what was in the promotion anyway.

Yeah, sorry about that. I looked at my 2005 catalog and noticed in the picture of the AFT saws that the guide rails were the old style. Guess those photos were a little out of date. Looking again at that year's catalog, I see that some of the tool photos are with the old rails and some with the newer /2 rails.