HVLP for on site spraying

[ericbuggeln]

Joe, I'm totally sold on the idea of no cup on the gun. If I get the info on the pancake compressor and the JC10, which I could use anyway, would you know if it would work or not? I I like the set up you mentioned, Eric

 

[ericbuggeln]

Nomad, that would have to be the no tax, free shipping price or otherwise it's gonna be hard to hide this from my wife. Eric

 

[mastercabman]

Eric, I'm going to be brutally honest----if you make this decision base on price you're an idiot ;D In the long run a cheep unit will cost you money and time. It will be nothing but an aggravation. I listed a pressure pot as one of the items I have for the Q4, the primary reason is for shooting paint. As I said before, HVLP units do not play well with latex paint, that is why I recommended tintable lacquer. I got the Q4 before the 395, if I had the 395 first, I most likely would not have purchased the pressure pot.

I had my share dealling with latex and HVLP.

On another note,do you REALLY think that ,even the best HVLP can give a very good result shooting latex?
I have a 3 stage,witch i don;t really use anymore,and wonder if the extra 1 or 2 stage really helps?

 

[tiralie]

I checked the EM6500 PDS, it lists the viscosity at 30-35 on a Zan #2, I found a conversion chart that shows that the same as 32 on a Ford 4. The KA is 32 from the factory.

Tom:
I believe that PDS is wrong, at least in so far as Jeff Weiss's post on the Target Forum.  The tech sheet says the viscosity is 70ku, which translates to over 143 on a Ford #4 cup.
Tim

 

[tjbnwi]

Through a pressure pot latex will work well. The pressure in the pot is delivering the fluid to the nozzle and air cap. The burden of getting the fluid to the tip is taken off the turbine.

I had grief with a friends Capspray 10,000, nothing wrong with the unit, ended up being a restriction in the fluid hose. Ya gotta keep 'em clean. Other than that, it is a nice unit.

Eric, I just found this;

http://www.eastcoasttoolsma.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=12310

If that is a current ad and a valid price, I highly recommend you go with this unit. I believe it will do all you want it to do. In the future you can up grade the gun if the need arise. As I said, I shot with it and once the hose was cleared it worked very well. It is basically a compressor, pressure pot and an HVLP gun on a cart.

Tom

 

[tjbnwi]

I checked the EM6500 PDS, it lists the viscosity at 30-35 on a Zan #2, I found a conversion chart that shows that the same as 32 on a Ford 4. The KA is 32 from the factory.

Tom:
I believe that PDS is wrong, at least in so far as Jeff Weiss's post on the Target Forum.  The tech sheet says the viscosity is 70ku, which translates to over 143 on a Ford #4 cup.
Tim

Thanks Tim. The link from their forum brings you to a different data sheet. I'll have to order some and see what happens.

On a note about the pace I spray at, I believe it comes from shooting Candies on a car. The slightest variation and it was highly visible. Any tip tail or lap would show also, the hazards of shooting translucence over base colors.

Tom

 

[Brice Burrell]

Through a pressure pot latex will work well. The pressure in the pot is delivering the fluid to the nozzle and air cap. The burden of getting the fluid to the tip is taken off the turbine.

I had grief with a friends Capspray 10,000, nothing wrong with the unit, ended up being a restriction in the fluid hose. Ya gotta keep 'em clean. Other than that, it is a nice unit.

Eric, I just found this;

http://www.eastcoasttoolsma.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=12310

If that is a current ad and a valid price, I highly recommend you go with this unit. I believe it will do all you want it to do. In the future you can up grade the gun if the need arise. As I said, I shot with it and once the hose was cleared it worked very well. It is basically a compressor, pressure pot and an HVLP gun on a cart.

Tom

I believe Jalvis recommended this setup earlier in this thread.  

 

[tjbnwi]

As if anyone reads earlier post,  ;D

I had to go back to page 2 to find it, you young guys need to give us old guys a break when it comes to this memory stuff.

Tom

 

[Brice Burrell]

As if anyone reads earlier post,  ;D

I had to go back to page 2 to find it, you young guys need to give us old guys a break when it comes to this memory stuff.

Tom

Tom, I'll have you know I'm old.  Earlier this year I became older than Tinker.  Those of you that read his posts know he's only 39. [tongue]

 

[tjbnwi]

My oldest daughter is only 5 years younger than you.

Tom

 

[Scott B.]

I don't even know where to start.  [scared]

 

[tiralie]

I don't even know where to start.  [scared]

About bloody time,  [wink]

 

[Scott B.]

I don't even know where to start.  [scared]

About bloody time,  [wink]

Lolol

 

[tjbnwi]

I don't even know where to start.  [scared]

From the Beginning. (old person song reference)

Tom

 

[ericbuggeln]

Scott pmed me and set me straight. Apollo 1050vr. I knew getting your guys help was gonna cost me deeply. Thanks Eric

 

[deepcreek]

Eric,

For what it's worth, I just picked up a used Apollo 1050vr based on Scott's endorsement.  I tried it once and quickly realized I'll need to buy more needles, nozzles, and caps to be able to spray a wide range of materials.

I also realized that I really love my pressure pot setup from Homestead Finishing and will be keeping both systems.

 

[ericbuggeln]

Do I want a gravity fed or siphon gun for cabs? Eric

 

[tiralie]

For what it's worth, I just picked up a used Apollo 1050vr based on Scott's endorsement.  I tried it once and quickly realized I'll need to buy more needles, nozzles, and caps to be able to spray a wide range of materials.

Agreed, but you weren't supposed to tell him that until he got his system [big grin]

Do I want a gravity fed or siphon gun for cabs? Eric

With all respect to Scott, talk to Homestead as well, but my recommendation is which ever system you get buy a gun that's is easier to convert to a pressure pot. Usually a siphon.

Tim

 

[deepcreek]

The beauty of my 2-qt C.A.T. Bandit pressure pot is it holds twice as much material as a siphon cup and there is a lot less weight at the gun.  The only downside is cleanup takes a little longer as you have to drain the hoses and then flush the hoses.  There is also the issue of contaminating your hoses with one type of material that interferes with another.  I prefer wiping stains so I never shoot stain with it.  I have pretty much dedicated it to waterborne topcoat finishes and will continue to do so.  I have the extra needle/nozzle to shoot paint with my setup but have never tried it.  The last time I shot latex I used an inexpensive cup gun with a large compressor and it worked surprisingly well.

 

[CarolinaNomad]

The seller can swap needles and caps out with what you need. For instance, if u don't spray stain, u won't need a 1.0 tip. 1.3, 1.5 and 1.8 tips should cover most of ur paints.  And the dealers usually throws in three tips.  1.8 can spray latex but u need to buy the good paint, 100% acrylic.  If not a 2.0 or bigger. Hopefully I'm not totally incorrect with that statement.