I have a Fuji Spray Q4 and the T70 gun and CA Tech Bandit 2 qt pot. Please Help

[Mike27520]

Hello, I have a Fuji Spray Q4 4 stage turbine and the few T70 guns and CA Technologies Bandit 2 qt pot. How do I use these together. Have sprayed with the pot and ca tech guns w/ a compressor but never used with a turbine set up. Any advise would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Mike

 

[tjbnwi]

I don't have a CAT pot so I looked at their website pictures.

It appears as if the pot is compressor pressurized.

Compressor to pot inlet, fluid hose to gun fluid port.

Turbine hose to gun turbine port.

Pictured is my set up using a Qualcraft pot.

Tom

 

[Mike27520]

ok, that makes since. I read that with a 4 or 5 stage you don't need a compressor to pressurize a pot. but your picture seems to be the way to go. Do you like that setup that you are using?

 

[Mike27520]

also, that little compressor is enough to pressurize the pot?

 

[tjbnwi]

ok, that make since. I read that with a 4 or 5 stage you don't need a compressor to pressurize a pot. but your picture seems to be the way to go. Do you like that setup that you are using?

Depends on the fitting on the pot. You can pressurize the pot with a turbine.

Yes, it served me well for many years.

To answer your other question, Yes. All the compressor is doing is push fluid to the gun, turbine is supplying atomizing air.

Tom

 

[Mike27520]

so if you were gonna use a turbine with a pot you would just change the air in fitting to accept the hose from the turbine and use the pot like you normally would but the atomizing hose that comes out of the pot would also have to be able to hook up to the Fuji gun? wonder if it is possible to get those fittings and modify those things?

 

[tjbnwi]

so if you were gonna use a turbine with a pot you would just change the air in fitting to accept the hose from the turbine and use the pot like you normally would but the atomizing hose that comes out of the pot would also have to be able to hook up to the Fuji gun? wonder if it is possible to get those fittings and modify those things?

Here's a link to a picture of the Fuji pot.

I'd make an adapter to go from turbine hose to pot, then a garden hose splitter to get to the gun.

Tom

 

[Mike27520]

thanks for the info. Just something that has been of interest and want to try. less to carry around when mobile.

 

[BJM9818]

Tom

Thanks for posting the Fuji pot. I use a Devilbiss 2qt pot and one of my small air compressors to pressurize it to around 15psi.  It’s fine for stationary use but I also use my Q4 to spray all the woodwork in the new houses I build. This would save me a ton of time untangling the air hoses.

 

[JBag09]

Not to change the subject, but if I were to purchase this compressor, Cali Air Tool- 15 gallon, how would this work on a pressure pot set up? Able to keep up? Or what about with just hooking it to a standard HVLP gravity gun

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[tjbnwi]

Not to change the subject, but if I were to purchase this compressor, Cali Air Tool- 15 gallon, how would this work on a pressure pot set up? Able to keep up? Or what about with just hooking it to a standard HVLP gravity gun

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Have to know which gun.

A bicycle tire pump will work on a pressure pot. All you need is enough air pressure to get the fluid from the pot to the gun. Atomizing air comes from a source other than the pot.

I can run my Graco Triton off a 2HP 2 gallon CAT compressor. Just have to listen to what it's telling me.

Tom

 

[tiralie]

Hello, I have a Fuji Spray Q4 4 stage turbine and the few T70 guns and CA Technologies Bandit 2 qt pot. How do I use these together. Have sprayed with the pot and ca tech guns w/ a compressor but never used with a turbine set up. Any advise would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Mike

I have this set up, well not exactly I use an XPS gun because it was easier to convert to accept the fluid line from the pressure pot.
I use a small Senco 1010 to pressurize the pot. You don't need more. Connect the fluid line from the pressure pot to the gun, the airline from your compressor to your pressure pot and set your pressure with the valve. Connect the Fuji turbine airline to the fitting on the gun and spray away.
Let me know if you need photo's.
Tim

 

[tiralie]

Not to change the subject, but if I were to purchase this compressor, Cali Air Tool- 15 gallon, how would this work on a pressure pot set up? Able to keep up? Or what about with just hooking it to a standard HVLP gravity gun

This way more compressor than you need for the set up you referenced in your original post. It will work on a conventional compressed air system.
110 volt 2 HP compressors really can't keep up with the CFM requirements (>10 CFM @ 40psi) of a conventional compressed air HVLP gun. There are some LVLP guns that will work, but they are generally unsatisfactory for finishing large panels.
Hope that helps.
Tim

 

[JBag09]

Here’s the setup I was planning on using. I have the gun already that I got from Ebay, the pot I need to get yet.
If this setup doesn’t work with the 15 gallon CAT compressor, the gun and the pot I’ll change whatever I need to. You guys know alot more about this stuff than I do.

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[tjbnwi]

According to California Air Tools the compressor will deliver 6.4 CFM @ 40 PSI. According to Coatings Atomization the gun requires 14 CFM. WE can ignore the pot, once it's charged it does not consume enough air to worry about.

The TomCat from C.A.T. is a conventional spray gun. My guess is you'll be spraying with atomizing air at 35-45 PSI. Call C.A.T. and find out if you should get an HVLP or a Compliant gun to go with the compressor.

Coatings Atomization Technologies is in Louisville CO.

Always fun when we have CAT and C.A.T. in the same post [eek]

I did some additional looking at C.A.T. website. Look at the FE-Line of guns. I would still call them and have a talk with them.

Tom

 

[JBag09]

I will do that, thanks Tom

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[tiralie]

I did some additional looking at C.A.T. website. Look at the FE-Line of guns. I would still call them and have a talk with them.

Tom
The FE is designed for spraying stain and toning where a light mist is better than a heavy stream. I have an FE gun. I wouldn't use it for production spraying. Not sure that gun will help unless [member=39086]JBag09[/member] is using this system primarily for that purpose.
He either needs to get a compressor capable of higher CFM's (>13 CFM), buy a AAA,  or use the turbine driven with the small compressor pressure pot set up  both of us favor.
It would help if we knew what kinds of coatings [member=39086]JBag09[/member] was spraying, how often and where (in shop, on location or both) then we could advise the best system.

Tim

 

[JBag09]

Sent you a PM Tim

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[J0hn]

C.A. Technologies makes a FE-LCFM gun

CFM is going to depend on the material sprayed - this is from their pdf
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You can also bundle the gun, compressor and pot together

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More Exampleshttp://www.finishsystems.com/gocompressorguncupandtankpackages.html

 

[tiralie]

C.A. Technologies makes a FE-LCFM gun

CFM is going to depend on the material sprayed - this is from their pdf
http://www.finishsystems.com/gocompressorguncupandtankpackages.html

Ok, the FE-LCFM gun ships with two different air caps so you can spray higher viscosity coatings. It a good gun, but the best 1.5Hp compressors still struggle to keep up with the demand when you need anything over 5-6 CFM. This makes spraying large panels or many larger pieces extremely time consuming and compromises the overall finish as water bourne coatings in particular flashing off very quickly and you loose your wet on wet edge.
The OP wants to spray KemAqua which has a viscosity rating of 28-32 seconds #2 Zahn Cup which means you are going to require a minimum of 6 cfm with the LCFM cap but realistically probably closer to 7-8 which means the compressor is running all the time and never really putting out enough CFM to cover your requirements. the LCFM cap essentially makes the gun a LVLP sprayer which reduces the amount of coating it is spraying.
Tim