I want one....

[jmbfestool]

Ive been looking at clamps and clamping systems.

I like this one! I like the versatility.  From Clamping frames to clamping carcases.

Only takes up 800mm in depth. 


Does any one know another good system i could look at. 
Does any  one know where i can get this in the UK.

Its bloody expensive so im only thinking about it.

I am pondering the idea of building my own because how expensive this system is.

Im sure i could make it all for a 1/3 of the price.

 

[KescoNY]

Awesome idea...
i wonder if they can be shop built on a wall out of mdf panels with 20mm holes so you can have as many panels as your space will allow for production work

 

[neeleman]

Maybe you can use a few of these oil bottle jacks and connect it with a baseplate to a vertical kind of MFT plate with holes.
Cheap ones are made in PRC and cost very little these days (€12).

 

[KescoNY]

Maybe you can use a few of these air bottle Jacks and fix it with a baseplate to a vertical kind of MFT plate with holes.
Cheap ones are made in PRC and cost very little these days (€12).

Few of the cheaper ones i used tend to creep down under low pressure but i was thinking something similar or even incorporating a porta power using 1 pump on multiple rams to even out the pressure 

 

[jmbfestool]

Maybe you can use a few of these air bottle Jacks and fix it with a baseplate to a vertical kind of MFT plate with holes.
Cheap ones are made in PRC and cost very little these days (€12).

Hey they are cheap like that idea.

Im leaning more and more towards a self build.

I just cant get my self to spend so much on one.

It looks amazing and I would love one but why is is soooooo expensive.

 

[Thunderchyld]

I've been looking for another manufacturer as well, no such luck here.  Some metalworking tables that are similar but make the Barth look cheap. 

Bit of a project to put one together, but it's a fun idea.  Might have to start working on a design, make it the first big project once I finally purchase a full size CNC router.  Upgrading my shop and making room for either a 4x8 or 5x10' CNC table and related accoutrements is on the list, but there's two remodels and a screen porch I have to get done for family before I can work on my own stuff, lol.

Have you seen the RPG-V model?  It combines the regular table with a flip up vacuum press.  No clue on what they want for that one, lol.  Not like the regular multi is cheap, starts at $8,000 or so, keeps going up and up as you add more clamps and accessories.  I can't remember where I saw the figure, but the rack, cart and all the extra clamps shown in the video have a grand total somewhere north of $30,000.

 

[jmac80]

Festool MFW - Multi Function Wall

 

[Kev]

I can actually see JMB making his own ... probably three times the height and doubles as his reconfigurable rock climbing wall [big grin] [wink]

 

[jmbfestool]

I can actually see JMB making his own ... probably three times the height and doubles as his reconfigurable rock climbing wall [big grin] [wink]

lol loving the rock climing function.

One of the things I would like is more heigh actually..  The Barth has a 1500mm limit height. Which isnt enough for lets say french door frames.

It can go upto 4m in length but unless i wanna make french doors for people of MY height i needs it to be taller.

2.4m clamping height would be ideal.  So I will be looking at desiging something with that in mind.

 

[Carl Prentiss]

Couldn't you orient the door horizontally for clamping?

 

[jmbfestool]

Couldn't you orient the door horizontally for clamping?

Its not the door its the frame.

Example I made a a few doors this weeks and one of the frames for the pair of doors was 1600x 2090.

I wouldnt be able to clampe the frame because its clamping limit 1500 in heigh.

Most french doors are atleast 2000 in height and width is normal atleast 1500+mm

 

[Carl Prentiss]

OK, Gotcha.

 

[Kev]

I'm thinking maybe a style of heavy gauge perforated steel sheet with a suitable hole pattern. Not only useful for clamping ... Could also be used as shelf bracket supports [big grin]

 

[Alan m]

that's pretty cool
but for 30,000 for a full set . I would think your mad
you could build a whole array of dedicated assembly jigs and tables and a shed to put them in for that money
im sure you will build it for 10k or less.
a lot of the features are only showing off features that you could do cheaper other ways .
like gluing up worktops or wider boards

 

[Kev]

that's pretty cool
but for 30,000 for a full set . I would think your mad
you could build a whole array of dedicated assembly jigs and tables and a shed to put them in for that money
im sure you will build it for 10k or less.
a lot of the features are only showing off features that you could do cheaper other ways .
like gluing up worktops or wider boards

I think it's a classic case of it being a niche product and having the typical niche price!

The thing in my mind is that your expensive station is tied up till the glue dries.

... wouldn't it be cool if there was a glue that stayed "wet" until you hit it with a signal, current, activator or something ... maybe a "sonic screwdriver" [big grin] so it instantly set. That'd save some time.

 

[Bohdan]

... wouldn't it be cool if there was a glue that stayed "wet" until you hit it with a signal, current, activator or something ... maybe a "sonic screwdriver" [big grin] so it instantly set. That'd save some time.

In the early days of microwave (as in like a microwave oven) development I worked next door to a factory that welded thin sheets of plastic to produce things like raincoats. This was a large machine that on any particular cold morning would be surrounded by a happy bunch of women warming up their rears, by pressing them against the machine, while it welded away.

Nobody had heard of microwave radiation leakage or of its effects.

Microwave activated glues are a dim distant glow in the deep dark corners of my memory. I would think that they were abandoned for general woodworking use because of the difficulty of preventing the radiation leakage from cooking the operators but I do seem to remember that they worked very well and were very quick.

 

[Nippychippy]

that's pretty cool
but for 30,000 for a full set . I would think your mad
you could build a whole array of dedicated assembly jigs and tables and a shed to put them in for that money
im sure you will build it for 10k or less.
a lot of the features are only showing off features that you could do cheaper other ways .
like gluing up worktops or wider boards

I think it's a classic case of it being a niche product and having the typical niche price!

The thing in my mind is that your expensive station is tied up till the glue dries.

... wouldn't it be cool if there was a glue that stayed "wet" until you hit it with a signal, current, activator or something ... maybe a "sonic screwdriver" [big grin] so it instantly set. That'd save some time.

Funny you should say that Kev because they are developing and wood fusion system seen it on YouTube a few months ago it's based on metal fusion welding it's crazy it turns your joined piece  it one solid piece

 

[Nippychippy]

Here's one link

 

[jmbfestool]

that's pretty cool
but for 30,000 for a full set . I would think your mad
you could build a whole array of dedicated assembly jigs and tables and a shed to put them in for that money
im sure you will build it for 10k or less.
a lot of the features are only showing off features that you could do cheaper other ways .
like gluing up worktops or wider boards

I think it's a classic case of it being a niche product and having the typical niche price!

The thing in my mind is that your expensive station is tied up till the glue dries.

... wouldn't it be cool if there was a glue that stayed "wet" until you hit it with a signal, current, activator or something ... maybe a "sonic screwdriver" [big grin] so it instantly set. That'd save some time.

You on about this kinda wood welder?? I wanted to buy one a couple years ago but that is another tool which isnt that cheap.  Only works with water based glues

My mate has one. He got his for £100 or from a company going under.  Jammy buggar

 

[jmbfestool]

that's pretty cool
but for 30,000 for a full set . I would think your mad
you could build a whole array of dedicated assembly jigs and tables and a shed to put them in for that money
im sure you will build it for 10k or less.
a lot of the features are only showing off features that you could do cheaper other ways .
like gluing up worktops or wider boards

I know mental how much it cost when you add it all up.

Ive decided 100% to build my own.  I would have considered buying it if it was £6-7k with all accesories included.  Im sure many more people would be it.

Ive got a couple of welders and an aswome welding mask i bought.
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So ill get onto welding some box section frame for the rear when i get time.
and get some box section with holes in and see how much £££ to have 6mm steel with holes costs or might just use 30mm birch and cnc the holes my self or maybe alluminium but thats expensive.