Imperial ruler for TS 55

[PeterK]

Thanks Tim!
Got mine yesterday. Using the dual scale version. Set it so that zero is when blade touches stock while on rail - so ruler is glued on lower  than original so zero equals old 5mm mark. Reads quite accurately. 1" is just a hair shy so will just use one or two clicks lower on the stop. Could move tape but it is glued on solid! Going to be really handy for double-checking my cut depth.
This ruler is very nicely made - excellent quality and well worth the price.  [big grin]
Pete

 

[Theshipstore]

Tim   Got mine today, Looks great...Went on real nice too....set it also with Saw contact to material while on Guide
Thanks
Sal

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Tim, looks good.  Maybe you can make them out of that material that changes depending on how the light hits it and how you're viewing it so you can have both scales.  Ok, probably a little far fetched.

 

[Tim2178]

Thanks Tim!
Got mine yesterday. Using the dual scale version. Set it so that zero is when blade touches stock while on rail - so ruler is glued on lower  than original so zero equals old 5mm mark. Reads quite accurately. 1" is just a hair shy so will just use one or two clicks lower on the stop. Could move tape but it is glued on solid! Going to be really handy for double-checking my cut depth.
This ruler is very nicely made - excellent quality and well worth the price.  [big grin]
Pete

If you need a new one to re-adjust send me another envelope.  I'd be happy to send you another.

 

[Tim2178]

Tim, looks good.  Maybe you can make them out of that material that changes depending on how the light hits it and how you're viewing it so you can have both scales.  Ok, probably a little far fetched.

Oh that would be awesome!  I wish I had access to that material!  I have all kinds of ideas for that

P.S. I feel bad for your avatar.  Don't you ever give that thing a rest? [big grin]

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Tim, looks good.  Maybe you can make them out of that material that changes depending on how the light hits it and how you're viewing it so you can have both scales.  Ok, probably a little far fetched.

Oh that would be awesome!  I wish I had access to that material!  I have all kinds of ideas for that

P.S. I feel bad for your avatar.  Don't you ever give that thing a rest? [big grin]

Just wait till it needs a sharpening!

 

[chayu]

how could you be metrically challenged?

metrics are, by far, a lower level of mathematics

think about it

try

56 plus 17 plus 1129 minus 34

now try

11 3/16 plus 1/4"  plus 35 7/32" plus  2 13/16" minus  19 5/8"

..........

once again

how can you be metrically challenged?

 

[Alan m]

how could you be metrically challenged?

metrics are, by far, a lower level of mathematics

think about it

try

56 plus 17 plus 1129 minus 34

now try

11 3/16 plus 1/4"  plus 35 7/32" plus  2 13/16" minus  19 5/8"

..........

once again

how can you be metrically challenged?

i think this is stupid. even for easy fractions imperial is very slow as you have to convert every thing into the smallest fraction. this is pure male bovine digestive byproduct. metric is way faster as all the units are the same .
for all ye people struggling with metric just remember , you can count to 20 on your fingers and toes if needed. [tongue] [tongue]
seriously though , if the maths gets tricky with metric a simly bit of paper and you can maybe not go wrong.

i use both systems but for different things.
1. i use metric for all accurate work

2. i use imperial for rough work where ease of use is faster than accuracy , such as stud frames etc.

3. any time my father , uncle is "helping" i use imperial as he is slow with metric. and we use a personal system of touchs to set sizes. we use the inchs and 1/4s for the rough size and say a
strong (whatever the number is)  or a slack (whatever the number is) , these are rough 1/8s
touch more or less are 1/16s.

this system works great for  when i work with my father etc.

metric all the way

 

[Steve R]

how could you be metrically challenged?

metrics are, by far, a lower level of mathematics

think about it

try

56 plus 17 plus 1129 minus 34

now try

11 3/16 plus 1/4"  plus 35 7/32" plus  2 13/16" minus  19 5/8"
..........

once again

how can you be metrically challenged?

When the person uses the words "lower level of mathematics" I think he means "more basic"  (as more rational  and is not some bizarre system that was added on to an already 12 based system when the numeral system was already a 10 based system)  Metric is soooooo much more accurate and it is much easier to work with.... Ahhhhhhh

We Americans just need to get over it and plan on learning that 16 inch on center is 406.4mm (and decide to call it 405mm or 406mm) and 12 inches is 604.5 (or just call it 605MM)

If you are math challenged.... Metric...is the way to go.

Or should be go back to Roman numerals....LOL ???

Am I off base with my comments?

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Corwin]

...  Metric is soooooo much more accurate ...

Am I off base with my comments?

Nice pun about being off base.  [big grin]

However, you are way off when you state that ,"metric is soooooo much more accurate" -- it may be a more logical system of measurement, but that has absolutely nothing to do with accuracy. 

 

[RONWEN]

...  Metric is soooooo much more accurate ...

Am I off base with my comments?

Nice pun about being off base.  [big grin]

However, you are way off when you state that ,"metric is soooooo much more accurate" -- it may be a more logical system of measurement, but that has absolutely nothing to do with accuracy. 

Very true.  Even though I prefer working in metric the granularity of the imperial (scale) system is smaller.  1/2mm equals .0197" vs. 1/64" equals .0156".

 

[spikfot]

The "granularity" reference works for the small scale, but for working on the large scale, with area estimates, in 'square' for floorspace, etc, or for cubic, vs. board feet, metric is far easier- and yes I've worked extensively with both, even though I typically use my Construction Master calculator for everything.

 

[Tim2178]

Here is the reason I made an imperial ruler for my ts55.  I have been doing woodworking for half my life.  When I get the saw out of the systainer, I simply want to glance at it and set it to 3/4" to cut through my plywood if I am using 3/4" ply.  Now I know that the actual thickness is NOT 3/4".  I don't care about that at all.  I am not cutting on top of a metal table.  When I am cutting through 1/2" ply I want to quickly set it to 1/2".  Simple as that.  I'm not used to metric and don't want to bother learning.

I do think metric makes more sense but I am still going to need to get a calculator out to add 1484 + 75 + 35 + 89.  I know wood, not math.  I love seeing how passionate people are about their measuring systems.  I would have never imagined such a debate over metric vs. imperial.

I also never set out to convert any metric people over to "the dark side".  I hope people were not under that impression.  I just know I have a nice resource to be able to help out any other "METRICALLY CHALLENGED" [smile] wood guys out there.

Thanks for all the light hearted debate.  Keep it coming! [big grin]

 

[coffeebean]

...  Metric is soooooo much more accurate ...

" ... it (metric) may be a more logical system of measurement, but that has absolutely nothing to do with accuracy.  "

... and I am not convinced that is is necessarily more logical. Simpler yes, but a foot can be divided  evenly divided by 2, 3 4,6 without.  I find that much handier for construciing  things that humans build and use.

Being of Canadian and of a certain age, I am equally fluent in metric and imperial. Very seldom do I utilize metric for construction.

fwiw,
G

 

[sl_1800]

Thanks Tim,  my ruler arrived today.  [big grin]

 

[spikfot]

how could you be metrically challenged?

metrics are, by far, a lower level of mathematics

think about it

try

56 plus 17 plus 1129 minus 34

now try

11 3/16 plus 1/4"  plus 35 7/32" plus  2 13/16" minus  19 5/8"

..........

once again

how can you be metrically challenged?

i think this is stupid. even for easy fractions imperial is very slow as you have to convert every thing into the smallest fraction. this is pure male bovine digestive byproduct. metric is way faster as all the units are the same .
for all ye people struggling with metric just remember , you can count to 20 on your fingers and toes if needed. [tongue] [tongue]
seriously though , if the maths gets tricky with metric a simly bit of paper and you can maybe not go wrong.

i use both systems but for different things.
1. i use metric for all accurate work

2. i use imperial for rough work where ease of use is faster than accuracy , such as stud frames etc.

3. any time my father , uncle is "helping" i use imperial as he is slow with metric. and we use a personal system of touchs to set sizes. we use the inchs and 1/4s for the rough size and say a
strong (whatever the number is)  or a slack (whatever the number is) , these are rough 1/8s
touch more or less are 1/16s.

this system works great for  when i work with my father etc.

metric all the way

Your rant was uncalled for, you miss-understood the post you were trying to refer to. Lighten up a little.

 

[Alan m]

how could you be metrically challenged?

metrics are, by far, a lower level of mathematics

think about it

try

56 plus 17 plus 1129 minus 34

now try

11 3/16 plus 1/4"  plus 35 7/32" plus  2 13/16" minus  19 5/8"

..........

once again

how can you be metrically challenged?

i think this is stupid. even for easy fractions imperial is very slow as you have to convert every thing into the smallest fraction. this is pure male bovine digestive byproduct. metric is way faster as all the units are the same .
for all ye people struggling with metric just remember , you can count to 20 on your fingers and toes if needed. [tongue] [tongue]
seriously though , if the maths gets tricky with metric a simly bit of paper and you can maybe not go wrong.

i use both systems but for different things.
1. i use metric for all accurate work

2. i use imperial for rough work where ease of use is faster than accuracy , such as stud frames etc.

3. any time my father , uncle is "helping" i use imperial as he is slow with metric. and we use a personal system of touchs to set sizes. we use the inchs and 1/4s for the rough size and say a
strong (whatever the number is)  or a slack (whatever the number is) , these are rough 1/8s
touch more or less are 1/16s.

this system works great for  when i work with my father etc.

metric all the way

Your rant was uncalled for, you miss-understood the post you were trying to refer to. Lighten up a little.

sorry but it came out a little bit harsh but what i meant was that the imperial example that was give as an easier calculation was a way harder one. metric is easier as it is basically 1+1+1+1 insteasd of 1/3+1/2+1/4+1/8+1/5+1/16+1/64+3/4+2/16

 

[Alan m]

i woiuld love one of these rulers for my say that had metric on it that included the rail and special marks for 18mm , 12mm, 25mm, 6mm, etc so setting the depth of sheet goods would be easier

 

[GhostFist]

First off great idea and good work on the rules. On the subject of metric vs imperial, myself being a wee bairn of but 33 years old and Canadian, metric was the system we learned in school. Increments of ten, nice and even no converting fractions to decimals then back and all. When getting into carpentry however, everyone here is, for the most part, mainly using imperial. I've seen carpenters hurl metric tapes across the site and admit I've done it once or thirteen times myself. Getting more into the mathematics of construction/carpentry I see the validity of metric more and more for accuracy and currently use a metric/imperial tape just to get back into metric mode or at least be bilingual with my measurements. My only stumbling block with metric really is visibility. I've trained myself to see 1", 1/16", 1/4", 1' and so on, so I often lazily go back to what I've always worked in in carpentry. I WILL be fluent in both however, I just have to keep beating that into my brain. I'm always fascinated with how some people will fight learning new things. I'm not slagging anyone here by saying that, what works for you works for you...so get to work. Just to give you an example however, the other day the head carpenter was in an argument over the phone regarding incorrect sink cut outs in a granite top he ordered for the kitchen. He's giving his measurements over the phone in imperial and the other side of the phone is giving them back in metric. I could see the frustration in his face so i passed him my metric tape which he refused to even look at....oh well I guess he can just deal with two wrong counter tops until he gets it right.

Anyways not hijacking, as I said great idea and good work! i don't currently own a TS 55 but would consider a dual measurement rule once I snag one. Cheers

 

[Tim2178]

Seems some people have their knickers in a bunch [eek].  pull them down a millimeter or two.  or three or four...not sure exactly how much that is.  How about 1 3/4". [big grin]