Introduction of the New T-LOC Systainer stacked with a Classic Systainer

Richard Leon said:
Good video, thanks. Also I noticed that on the inside of the lid of one of your new t-locs, the printed card includes a photo of how to fit everything in the systainer. Exactly 6 minutes in.

Finally! This detail has been on my wish list for ages.

Some of the Festool products have had this feature for some time now.  It may not be on all products, but there is a picture of the contents stored correctly on the cardboard information sheet on the underside of the lid of my MFK700 that I purchased two years ago.  Just pointing out that this is not something new to the T-Locs.
 
Hello Gentlemen,

This past week I was in Ulm for meeting and get more information on our new T-Loc line and Tanos Mobil.
First I like to Thanks Richard for the great work on the Video.
Now, I like to give you more information about the T-Loc.
T-Loc 1, 2 and 3 will be available in North America from October 2010 in light grey with the blue latch and also in anthracite. The T-Loc 4 and 5 will be available in December 2010. For other 7 color they will be available from 2011.
Also we are introducing new accessories and also modified some of the classic one to fit in the T-Loc.
We have the tendency to say old and new but in this case, the T-Loc was design not to replace the Classic systainer but to add to our line a new case that is also demanded in the logistic field. Let me explained! In the front and in the side their is a place to put a card or a label like Festool do. Two label in front, one on the side and one free for the customer to put is business card or any other information. The slates were designed also for RFID system. In the future Tanos will be able to make cards like credit card that can be scan and inter in a computer for tracking or any other mean a company will need the cards. Also, when you buy a T-Loc, you will be able to go to Tanos website and print on a label any information about the T-Loc and its content. Tanos is offering this label from our distributors.  also for T-Loc one and 2 you will be able to put in the slot an extra handle so the T-loc can be carried like a brief case.
I will try to give you more information when back to the states.
Also, I hope you all can understand my English writing  [big grin]

 
Franck,

Thanks for your post. One small disclaimer...the fantastic video was by Michael ma, not Richard.

Please keep us posted on any developments
Richard.
 
For most of 2010, I have not had the time to be checking in to the FOG.  All of this talk about L-box and T-box is news to me.  Thanks Mike, for the great vid.  I, having seen now for first time, like the new T-box Systainer design.  I have very limited space in my shop and too much piled into that space.  I have many of my systainers stacked on the floor.  The rest are lined up on a shelf.  The ones on the shelf will need to come off of the shelve for access no mater what, so there will be no space saving for me if I were to put the T-boxes in the air.  But for those on the floor, I must save a small amount of space so I can unlock the side clamps on the old style boxes.  The new design on the T-boxes means I can stack all I want as close together as I want (right against each other) and still be able to unstack without rolling out onto the overcrowded floor space.  The whole idea looks great. 
Thanks again, Mike
Tinker
PS  What are L-boxes?  Are those the old style boxes?
 
Well done Mike.  This has a lot of useful improvements particularly with a SYS1 container rear latches in the SYSPORT. 
 
Steve Rowe said:
Well done Mike.  This has a lot of useful improvements particularly with a SYS1 container rear latches in the SYSPORT. 

What?  Are you placing a stack of Systainers in your Systainer Port?  If you have one Systainer per drawer, you don't need to latch/unlatch the rear latches, so there would be no advantage there unless you were stacking multiple Systainers on a single drawer. 
 
No stacks in the drawers.  Put a SYS1 in the SYSPORT with all latches installed.  Now try opening the drawer and opening the SYS1.  You will immediately see several problems.  The first is that you cannot unlatch the rear latches on a SYS1 due to interference with drawer sides.  This means to open the SYS1, you would have to remove it from the drawer.  Second, if you desire to leave the latch installed but keep the lid unlatched on the side, the latch does not slide down far enough so you have to latch it.  I remove the rear latches from SYS1 to avoid this problem.  This causes an inconvenience because if you want to remove it to take it to the jobsite, now you don't have rear latches.  So go find them and install so now you can stack systainers.

The Systainer system is really well thought out but, in the case of the SYS1 and SYSPORT, it falls short.  The new T-LOC seems to resolve that issue.

Corwin said:
Steve Rowe said:
Well done Mike.  This has a lot of useful improvements particularly with a SYS1 container rear latches in the SYSPORT. 

What?  Are you placing a stack of Systainers in your Systainer Port?  If you have one Systainer per drawer, you don't need to latch/unlatch the rear latches, so there would be no advantage there unless you were stacking multiple Systainers on a single drawer. 
 
Steve Rowe said:
No stacks in the drawers.  Put a SYS1 in the SYSPORT with all latches installed.  Now try opening the drawer and opening the SYS1.  You will immediately see several problems.  The first is that you cannot unlatch the rear latches on a SYS1 due to interference with drawer sides.  This means to open the SYS1, you would have to remove it from the drawer.  Second, if you desire to leave the latch installed but keep the lid unlatched on the side, the latch does not slide down far enough so you have to latch it.  I remove the rear latches from SYS1 to avoid this problem.  This causes an inconvenience because if you want to remove it to take it to the jobsite, now you don't have rear latches.  So go find them and install so now you can stack systainers.

The Systainer system is really well thought out but, in the case of the SYS1 and SYSPORT, it falls short.  The new T-LOC seems to resolve that issue.

I have four Systainer Ports, and have several Systainer I's stored in the drawers.  I find the only thing true in your statement above is that the Systainer Port's drawer slides will prevent one from opening the rear latches of a Systainer I while in the drawer.  But, there is absolutely no reason one would need to open those rear latches.  The Systainer lids do not have tabs that engage with the rear latches, and therefor those rear latches do not prevent one from opening their Systainer.  On my Systainer Ports, there IS room to leave those rear latches of a Systainer I in their lowest position and there is NO interference with the drawer.  I have never needed to remove a rear latch from a Systainer.  This is simply a non-issue in my experience and I fail to see where you are correct -- you must be doing something wrong.

On Edit:  If you leave your rear latches in their up position, then they will prevent you from opening the lid of your Systainer.  But, the latches should be returned to their lower positions when not latched to a Systainer stacked above.  There is nothing about the drawer slide in a Systainer Port that will prevent these rear latches from being in their lower position. 
 
I stand corrected.  After having Festools and Systainers for over 8 years, I was out in the shop and just realized the rear latches do not hold the lid down.  All that wasted time unlatching all 4 when I only needed to do two. :-[

Corwin said:
Steve Rowe said:
No stacks in the drawers.  Put a SYS1 in the SYSPORT with all latches installed.  Now try opening the drawer and opening the SYS1.  You will immediately see several problems.  The first is that you cannot unlatch the rear latches on a SYS1 due to interference with drawer sides.  This means to open the SYS1, you would have to remove it from the drawer.  Second, if you desire to leave the latch installed but keep the lid unlatched on the side, the latch does not slide down far enough so you have to latch it.  I remove the rear latches from SYS1 to avoid this problem.  This causes an inconvenience because if you want to remove it to take it to the jobsite, now you don't have rear latches.  So go find them and install so now you can stack systainers.

The Systainer system is really well thought out but, in the case of the SYS1 and SYSPORT, it falls short.  The new T-LOC seems to resolve that issue.

I have four Systainer Ports, and have several Systainer I's stored in the drawers.  I find the only thing true in your statement above is that the Systainer Port's drawer slides will prevent one from opening the rear latches of a Systainer I while in the drawer.  But, there is absolutely no reason one would need to open those rear latches.  The Systainer lids do not have tabs that engage with the rear latches, and therefor those rear latches do not prevent one from opening their Systainer.  On my Systainer Ports, there IS room to leave those rear latches of a Systainer I in their lowest position and there is NO interference with the drawer.  I have never needed to remove a rear latch from a Systainer.  This is simply a non-issue in my experience and I fail to see where you are correct -- you must be doing something wrong.

On Edit:  If you leave your rear latches in their up position, then they will prevent you from opening the lid of your Systainer.  But, the latches should be returned to their lower positions when not latched to a Systainer stacked above.  There is nothing about the drawer slide in a Systainer Port that will prevent these rear latches from being in their lower position. 
 
Steve Rowe said:
I stand corrected.  After having Festools and Systainers for over 8 years, I was out in the shop and just realized the rear latches do not hold the lid down.  All that wasted time unlatching all 4 when I only needed to do two. :-[

Steve,

It is too bad that you didn't bring up this issue earlier.  Think of all the finger nails that could have been saved.  [big grin]
 
Thanks Mike for taking the time to do the video. it is always great to see the new products up close.
 
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