Is this will be sold in US -- >> KRS-BAG & FS-BAG-PA

EcoFurniture said:
I don't have a need for the rail bag as I have rails hanging on the wall... But the saw bag would be really attractive! Will it be big enough for the Kapex blades?
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Andres, I am surprised that in your business your never have a need to use the rails on the job site.  Why is that?
 
Frank Pellow said:
EcoFurniture said:
I don't have a need for the rail bag as I have rails hanging on the wall... But the saw bag would be really attractive! Will it be big enough for the Kapex blades?
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Andres, I am surprised that in your business your never have a need to use the rails on the job site.  Why is that?
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90% of our sales are bed frames and other free standing furniture. Therefore I rarely have to bring the full range of festool with me. But if I do have to transport the rails, I strap them onto a piece of ply where they are held in place by a strap. If I would have to drag them around all the time, then sure, it would make sense to get that bag.
 
Mr Shane Sir, add this Festool junkie to the Rail Bag numbers. Don't think I would buy the blade storage bag.
 
The title says it all.  I'll be picking up the parallel guides when the spring promotion starts and would love to have that bag to put them in.
 
I would definitely be intersted in the larger rail bag with the extra storage.  The problem with the current rail bag is that it is holds rails.  I would say if it was $180-$200 I would buy it. 
 
i think the rail bag needs to fit a 75" rail . we are buying a system and if the system doesnt work together then whats the point
 
I bought the rail bag, (late last year,early this year?) and am pretty happy with it. The inside of the bag will hold two rails. I transport my 55 and 75 in it. Of course the 75 sticks out the end, not thrilled with that. Mostly I just transport the 55 for cutting doors. There is a pouch on the front of the bag that measures out to hold 32" rails. Haven't gotten around to buying one or two of those yet.
The bag is constructed of heavy (cordura?) back pack type material and has both a hand and shoulder strap. The shoulder strap is pretty convenient when pushing a CT stack. For a bag that can hold 4 rails, I think it's a pretty decent deal. I would prefer it if it had a separate pouch at the top to hold two clamps.
A 75 rail bag would also be nice but I'm not sure I would buy it. Having transported the 75 rail in this bag, it is a bit cumbersome. Very easy to bang on walls, tops of door jambs, etc. I would prefer to see a hard shell case, like a rifle box. A hard shell case that multiple rails, up to 75 could clip into. Shipping cost might be an issue. However since such a case would just be formed/extruded plastic of some kind, fabrication should be dirt cheap. At this point in time, making hard shell cases like that isn't exactly rocket science.
I found the bag I bought buy calling around to see who had one in stock.
 
I would not expect to see the "new" rail bag being offered in Europe available in the US/Canada in the near future.
 
Shane, I've looked at the bag, and thought about it for a minute.

For the price, I think it could be better. I see the following things:

-Blade bags like that you're showing are pretty accessible elsewhere. But they all have the same issue... they're just one more thing to remember. On the other hand, a blade bag that was sized (and shown, in the catalog) to slide into a systainer, and hold blades and rail clamps and other normal quick-job TS accessories out of harm's way would be great. One more thing to remember is a hassle. An accessory that works within the system, and helps to organize the parts in a way that reduces wear and tear is a great idea.

-The concept of having a bag to hold the accessories for the guide rail system is a good one, and it's an extension of the 'one more thing to remember' line of thought.... because there are a lot of things to remember. But I think it should be bigger, to hold more of the needed job-site accessories. A bag with a more square cross-section, with padded fabric layers in the added volume to hold things like the MFS rails and accessories, possibly bits and blades, (including pockets for the TS55 blades... they're small enough to fit) some of the MFT parts, clamping elements, and so on. Having a known central location on site where the larger accessories and such are stored would be invaluable. Systainers are good for some things, like bits and blades and some router accessories. But there are a lot of things to remember with the Festool system, that don't fit into Systainers. There's an opportunity here to put together a viable, more expanded system to count and account for everything before you go to the site. This bag is almost there... but not yet. For that price, I think you can make a bigger bag that will hold more.

I'm basically seeing two of those bags, connected to each other lengthwise, with carry handles that are attached to nylon webbing that would wrap all the way around.  Each side with it's own padded, zipping lid, and then both sides hinge together, and zip together around the rails. When open, one side could be partitioned as it is now, and the other one partitioned to accommodate other, longer elements, like the MFS and MFT parts. The cost of raw materials and labor to build a more expanded version would not be too much more than it was to make this one, so I wouldn't imagine that such a bag would have to cost double what this one does. But I'd be willing to pay just a little more, if it meant more peace of mind when it came to accounting for everything when I'm setting up, or breaking down, at either end of the job.
 
James Watriss said:
...But they all have the same issue... they're just one more thing to remember......

....An accessory that works within the system, and helps to organize the parts in a way that reduces wear and tear is a great idea.....

....Having a known central location on site where the larger accessories and such are stored would be invaluable. Systainers are good for some things, like bits and blades and some router accessories. But there are a lot of things to remember with the Festool system, that don't fit into Systainers....
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James, I like the way you think. There is a need for a bag like the one you described for jobsite use. You helped to get the Qwas rail square happening and this could be another idea for a third party to pursue. I'm pretty sure there are companies that will make custom bags, maybe we should look into it. 
 
Shane Holland said:
I would not expect to see the "new" rail bag being offered in Europe available in the US/Canada in the near future.
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Sound like an opportunity for someone to make a product that houses the Festool guide rails. Maybe Deluth, they make a lot of fabric products?
 
A friend use to make boat covers, he also made a bag to transport his snowboard on a plane. It was padded made with high quality canvas.  Similar materials could be used for a guide rail/accessory bag.  If someone could come up with detailed specs/drawings of a bag I'm sure there would be someone who could fairly easily produce these.  If you go through a big company I have a feeling minimum orders would be in the low hundreds for them to agree to do this, where as an individual wouldn't be so concerned with large scale productions.  Just my  [2cents]
 
I think Veto should step-up and make a bag for the rails.

I own 2 Veto bags and they are the Festool of open and closed tool bags.
 
Steve-CO said:
A friend use to make boat covers, he also made a bag to transport his snowboard on a plane. It was padded made with high quality canvas.  Similar materials could be used for a guide rail/accessory bag.   If someone could come up with detailed specs/drawings of a bag I'm sure there would be someone who could fairly easily produce these.  If you go through a big company I have a feeling minimum orders would be in the low hundreds for them to agree to do this, where as an individual wouldn't be so concerned with large scale productions.  Just my  [2cents]
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Steve, that wouldn't be hard, SketchUp!

WarnerConstCo. said:
I think Veto should step-up and make a bag for the rails.

I own 2 Veto bags and they are the Festool of open and closed tool bags.
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Nah, I want a bag to be under $300.
 
Brice Burrell said:
Steve-CO said:
A friend use to make boat covers, he also made a bag to transport his snowboard on a plane. It was padded made with high quality canvas.  Similar materials could be used for a guide rail/accessory bag.   If someone could come up with detailed specs/drawings of a bag I'm sure there would be someone who could fairly easily produce these.  If you go through a big company I have a feeling minimum orders would be in the low hundreds for them to agree to do this, where as an individual wouldn't be so concerned with large scale productions.  Just my  [2cents]
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Steve, that wouldn't be hard, SketchUp!
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If someone will come up with a SketchUp drawing, I'd be willing to do a little leg work and see what I can come up with as far as costs and getting something produced.
 
Steve-CO said:
If someone will come up with a SketchUp drawing, I'd be willing to do a little leg work and see what I can come up with as far as costs and getting something produced.
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Great, let's see if you get a few more ideas then I'll draw something up in Sketchup. 
 
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