JULY 2008: PS 300 or PSB 300 Jigsaw

[Steve Jones]

DD, here in Texas (my adopted home) Ass DOES rhyme with Grass.....

But neither of them rhyme with the way you say them.

 

[Steve Jones]

When a Texan says "Grass" you'd swear there's a "y" and a "u" in there somewhere.

 

[dirtydeeds]

texans ADD

innumerable Y's and U's to grass

and then im accused of abusing the letter "e"

its totally, out................ rageous 

 

[Matthew Schenker]

AND THE WINNER IS...

Once again, the judges had a lot of favorites.  Now that we opened the contest up to jigs and inventions, as well as tools, there were so many great projects to consider.  But in the end, we chose...

Paul Franklin's "Home-Made Sysports" Project.

Paul will receive either a PS 300 or a PSB 300 jigsaw.  Paul has to choose which one.

The Home-Made Sysport project has quite a history.  It was one of the early projects posted back in the prehistoric days of the forum, when we were still plodding along on Yahoo.  The project is special not only because it's a great idea, but also because it has inspired many other people to make their own Sysports.

If you take a look at the forum statistics, you will see that Paul's project has gathered more views (hits) than any other discussion in this forum (currently at 17,545).

Congtratulations to Paul!

Stay in touch,
Matthew

 

[Frank Pellow]

Congratulations Paul! ;D

Your project inspired me to make a similar systainer port which I am very happy with.

I am glad to be able to say that I nominated this project away back in the 8th post in this thread.  ;D 

 

[Matthew Schenker]

Frank,
You had the vision...

I should add one small note: I think this is the only project that has also become a member's avatar!

Matthew

 

[Michael Kellough]

Congratulations to Paul!

However, unless the link above to Paul's Sysport project is incorrect,
it sure looks like the requirements for documentation has swung as far back
in the opposite direction as is possible to go.

 

[Matthew Schenker]

... unless the link above to Paul's Sysport project is incorrect,
it sure looks like the requirements for documentation has swung as far back
in the opposite direction as is possible to go.

The link is correct.  But I'm not sure what you mean about going in the opposite direction.
Matthew

 

[Frank Pellow]

Frank,
You had the vision...
...
Matthew

No, Paul had the vision.  I had the appreciation.

 

[Matthew Schenker]

No, Paul had the vision.  I had the appreciation.

Both are important!  That's the idea behind the contests -- vision and appreciation.

As we move into August's contest, I'd be interested in hearing responses from people about the way things are going.  Does anyone agree or disagree with Michael Kellough on this?

Thanks,
Matthew

 

[Frank Pellow]

...
As we move into August's contest, I'd be interested in hearing responses from people about the way things are going.  Does anyone agree or disagree with Michael Kellough on this?
...
Thanks,
Matthew

I don't understand what Michael is saying so neither agree nor disagree.

I can tell you that I think that the contests are going very well and that we have three worthy winners.

 

[Michael Kellough]

... unless the link above to Paul's Sysport project is incorrect,
it sure looks like the requirements for documentation has swung as far back
in the opposite direction as is possible to go.

The link is correct.  But I'm not sure what you mean about going in the opposite direction.
Matthew

I mean there isn't much documentation for Paul's project.

This is not criticism of Paul or his project. His Sysports were made before there even was a non-Yahoo FOG so how could he anticipate the contest. His post is very valuable for inspiring a lot of other people to undertake similar projects and many of them contributed a lot of information to the thread, which did receive a huge number of views. It's just that I recall Eiji's huge volume of documentation and the judges request for even more. In this case, there isn't any documentation except for two pictures and some hardware notes.

"Entering the Contest
It's simple: build something, then write up a description of your project and post it in the forum.

Remember, the contest is about great projects, but it's also about great descriptions of great projects!  To win, do your best to post about these details:
As much as possible, describe in words the step-by-step process you used to achieve your results.
Use photos to illustrate various stages of the project, not just the final results.
As much as possible, explain how Festool tools were part of this project.
In your own way, show what other members can learn from your project experience.

Contest Rules
Just a few simple rules:
The project must involve at least one Festool tool.  The way you used Festool tools must be described in your post.
The posting must contain a text description, and at least one project photo.
The contest is open only to FOG members from Canada and the USA.
The following members cannot enter: Festool employees, Festool Dealers, FOG administrator, and contest judge(s).
The same project cannot win more than once.
The project cannot be posted in another forum prior to entering the FOG contest."

The lines in bold indicate to me that this project did not meet the bare minimum for consideration, that is what I meant by the documentation requirements swinging as far in the other direction as possible.

Here is what Paul posted,


#1

Home made Sysports
? on: February 2, 2007, 12:57 PM ?
Quote
Here are some pictures of the home made sysports I made. These pictures were on the Yahoo group, so I thought I would post them here.

Regards

Paul

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#2

Lou

I will never have enough, although there are now 5 of them and the 5th is half full, that picture was taken a few years ago.

Paul

#3

Dave

The casters I actually got from ebay, I have a spare set somewhere, I will dig them out and get you the information. The trays are adjustable, I used the Festool 32mm system (LR32sys) it is a great product.
The slides are full extension slides that I go from Gliderite (www.gliderite.com) but Westlund has them also.

Regards

Paul

#4

If you use a 5mm drill and use the 32mm system, or if you just use a 5mm drill you need to use 5mm euro screws, they are available from LV

Paul

#5

Quote from: markcoutinho on November 17, 2007, 04:06 PM
The systainer with the blue latches contains the Power File BF 1 E.
That great tool isn't available anymore...
But, yeah, I'm thinking of buying those green latches for it. Let's face it: I even bothered to find me the (pretty much) exact same color green for my drawers, so why not buy these latches 

You are very lucky man, I have been trying to find one of those for years!!!!! I know of at least 3 of those here in the States, but they won't part with them

Paul

#6

Sorry guys the belt file or the attachment are no longer available, not even in Europe.

Paul

Again, I mean no criticism of Paul's project, I doubt he even intended it to be considered for the contest.

See what I mean? Or, is there a whole 'nother thread that I missed?

 

[Bob Swenson]

I agree with Micheal,

Did you forget the rules or did they  go by the wayside?

Bob  ???

 

[Greg in Memphis]

Congratulations Paul

I'm glad that you got something from your project. We sure did.
Thanks for sharing it with us to begin with.

Greg

 

[Matthew Schenker]

I mean there isn't much documentation for Paul's project.

This is not criticism of Paul or his project. ... It's just that I recall Eiji's huge volume of documentation and the judges request for even more. In this case, there isn't any documentation except for two pictures and some hardware notes.

... this project did not meet the bare minimum for consideration, that is what I meant by the documentation requirements swinging as far in the other direction as possible.

I agree with Micheal,

Did you forget the rules or did they  go by the wayside?

Bob  ???

Michael and Bob,
So, are you saying Paul should not have won?  If not, what are you saying exactly?
We had a lot of reasons for choosing Paul's project, but it was a close contest, as I mentioned above.
Maybe the other judges can weigh in here, as I don't want to defend the decision all by myself.
Thanks,
Matthew

 

[Bob Swenson]

Matthew, I did not say Paul should not have won, I am
saying that I agree with Michael. If you make a set if rules stick with them.
WHAT IS NOT TO UNDERSTAND ? If you keep telling us you don't understand
pretty soon we are going to understand that you don't.

Bob :

 

[Matthew Schenker]

Bob,
Michael said, "this project did not meet the bare minimum for consideration."
You said, "I agree with Michael."

That sounds to me like you and Michael think the project should not have won.  If anyone can tell me how the above statements can mean something else, please explain.

Thanks,
Matthew

 

[Bill Wyko]

I would just like to say congradulations to Paul. Great way to not only store the systainers but to integrate the look as well. I will say though, I'd like to see more of the build process. (Then I can make my own ;D)

 

[Paul Franklin]

Guys

I would like to say a great big THANK YOU!!!

That was a great surprise to wake up to this morning.

I will try and work on some more detail for you all, if you want it.

Thank you again to all the judge's and the jury.

Paul

 

[greg mann]

Bob and Michael, your points are well taken. I certainly feel that Eiji set the bar with all the documentation he did the first month if the contests and I do agree that Paul had very little documentation of his processes but generally overlooked that as his work pre-dated the contest by several years. For me, as a judge, I tried to balance out a couple of conflicting notions here and decided this was still a worthy choice.

I see that Paul has offered to fill in some details after the fact, so to speak. I think that would be great, Paul. Please do. Making some Sysports is on my own to-do list.