Kapex Deck NOT Flat on Left Side

[Cheese]

This is my personal opinion and not necessarily that of Festool.

Some folks are too quick to run feeler gauges and calipers all over their tools before they turn them on. Make some cuts. Check the angles on the cuts and see if they meet your expectations. As was already mentioned, these are woodworking tools, not surgical instruments.

The definition of "precision" is in the eye of the beholder and it varies greatly. In the end, make sure the tool lives up to your expectations, which will vary from person to person.

Amen

 

[tbellemare]

I spent a lot of my life in the precision machine design and manufacturing world. It was normal to have a default tolerance of plus/minus .015" (~.38mm) on machined surfaces. A tight tolerance was normally plus/minus .005" (~.13mm). These sort of machining tolerances made everything from precision oil well analysis instruments to rocket engines to Formula One engines to nuclear weapons...

I just use that example for some perspective here... An average human hair is about .07mm.

Tom

 

[clutzer]

Update: if I press down on the left side of the turret with the palm of my hand it levels out perfectly.

I took the turret off and there are some thin guides that the turret rotates on that are screwed down.  Seems like there *could* be some adjustment there.

 

[Stephen B]

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There have been past threads with 'real' Kapex concerns. This is not one of them.

My old Makita has significantly more faults than this and gives perfect 90 degree cuts (with dust!).

 

[clutzer]

I haven't been in this community for very long, but there sure are a lot more tools here than I thought would be.

 

[Stephen B]

I haven't been in this community for very long, but there sure are a lot more tools here than I thought would be.

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Who? Me!  [smile]  [thumbs up] [thumbs up]

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

I love it.

 

[John H]

In my opinion, it should be expected that people complain about imprecise conditions because Festool wants customers to expect precision from their tools.  This is caused by differences in marketing and engineering... and all mitigated of course by the varying skills of the user.  My miters suck so I need all the help I can get.  (I know, it's me, not the tool!)

Case in point: (see attached photo) Festool mentions precision three times in a few bullets about the Kapex, and they sure price the tool as a precision instrument.  I think it's fair to expect a flat and level surface on a precision metal deck.  It sounds like there is variability in the manufacturing process which may warrant a review.

If my Incra LS didn't provide precision I'd complain about that, too, because its touted as precision and it costs comparably more money.  Is precision needed?  Question the Festool advertisements first!  [/response to rant] 

You have to remember that a bunch of posts in this thread are from Festool Employees, Festool Dealers, people that Festool paid for their opinions, etc etc

You bring up a good point about Incra and I agree.  When your paying three times the price for a SCMS it should measure up to all the hype...

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

You have to remember that a bunch of posts in this thread are from Festool Employees, Festool Dealers, people that Festool paid for their opinions, etc etc

You bring up a good point about Incra and I agree.  When your paying three times the price for a SCMS it should measure up to all the hype...

You are a real piece of work. 

 

[tbellemare]

• I am a Festool Dealer.
• Festool doesn't pay me for anything.
• I pay Festool for everything.
• I am the Festool customer.

I think this relationship has gotten a bit confused, especially since Festool took over this Forum.

My customers are MY customers and I am very serious about treating them like I want to be treated. That is how I have always done business.

Snarky innuendo doesn't contribute to intelligent discussion...

Not knowing how to measure success in manufacturing is a shortcoming of the person measuring, not the manufacturing.

Tom

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Allow me to repeat myself. Different people have different expectations.

This is not about the opinions of me, a dealer, or people who are perceived to be paid in some way to post on this forum (which no one is). This is an open forum and there is no censorship. If anyone has an opinion, a complaint, an issue, or anything negative to say about the products, they are welcome to do so as evidenced in this thread. Likewise, there are paying customers who are equally entitled to post their positive comments. We have two member moderators who are not on Festool's payroll to make sure everything done here is on the up and up.

If you get the Kapex and it doesn't meet your expectations, that's perfectly fine. Feel free to say so and please exercise our 30 day return policy.

Now, let's move beyond the debate. Everyone has an opinion on the topic and that's clear. I don't think there's going to be anything new or enlightening added to this thread, so it is going to be locked.

Shane