kapex july 1st

[billybokay]

Just came from my dealer and festool sales rep walked in. Saw me buying a 1010 and I was able to grub a free t shirt from him.
He asked me if I have any questions on the new tools. I said only one....Kapex
He said
Kapex will be available July 1st this year.
Price  , just the saw and angle guide  $1300.00
They are taking orders

 

[Frank Pellow]

I have resited buying an electric powered miter saw this long (I do have a good manual powered one from Sweden).

At $1,300, I guess that I will resist, at least  :, a little while longer.

 

[dltflt]

Just came from my dealer and festool sales rep walked in. Saw me buying a 1010 and I was able to grub a free t shirt from him.
He asked me if I have any questions on the new tools. I said only one....Kapex
He said
Kapex will be available July 1st this year.
Price  , just the saw and angle guide  $1300.00
They are taking orders

If you have an MFT why would you need a miter saw?

 

[billybokay]

I love my mft. Use it everyday. For cutting, I only use it for square cuts. Never trust the angle guide. How about cutting crown molding on an mft. I don't think so.

 

[dltflt]

Point well taken.  I guess I will have to hold onto my PC miter saw.

 

[Dan Clermont]

{quote}
If you have an MFT why would you need a miter saw?
[/quote]

I thought the same thing when I got my MFT and soon learnt it was easier to use the miter saw for most miter cuts.

A miter saw also has bigger depth of cut compared to the TS-55 (about twice as much for a 10" miter saw)

I did use the MFT 1080 for the moldings in one of my suites and it did work fine (was too lazy to drag up the miter saw) but with the MFT 1080 you can only bevel one way so you must remember to flip the profile when cutting the other half of your miter joint. By the time I was done I had hardly any dust on the floor whereas my miter saw would have made a huge mess

The MFT 3 appears to bevel both ways which may make moldngs easier

Dan Clermont

 

[Dan Clermont]

Can you buy it without the angle guide?

I've lived a long, long time without an angle guide and would hate to put off buying the KAPEX cause the angle guide is included with it

Dan C

 

[billybokay]

the angle guide (or whatever they call it on the Kapex) is probably one of the biggest reasons to buy that saw, the other beeing dust collection. Watch the video on You tube and you will see what a great feature it is.

 

[mysterium]

At $1,300 DOLLARS I don't care "HOW" good the dust collection is............

My Makita 1013 looks like one hell of a bargain!!!  If I remember correctly what I payed for my Makita I could get four LS1013's for the price of one Kapex.....  Even if I sold my Makita for $300 it's dam hard to justify that dollar difference especially with the way the economy is now.

jim

 

[joraft]

the angle guide (or whatever they call it on the Kapex) is probably one of the biggest reasons to buy that saw, the other being dust collection.

The angle guide and double laser beams are very cool. But at $1300, I think I'll be able to resist this saw for a while.

It's hard to find add-on laser guides that can be accurately and reliably set to the cut line, like the ones that are built in. But other than that, my DeWalt DW708 has served me very well, and probably will do so for some time to come.

John

 

[billybokay]

I have to agree Jim. I expected to be a little put off by the price, but get one anyway. Now I am not so sure. As a semi pro woodworker, I would need a must have situation, before I tossed my current miter saw and bought this one.
I love festool and would probably love this one as well. But I must remember I am not doing molding all day long and I do not need this tool.

say it again..I do not need this tool.

 

[Frank Pellow]

...

say it again..I do not need this tool.

OK, "I do not need this tool" 

Furthermore, "You do not need this tool"  ;D

 

[Terp]

{quote}
If you have an MFT why would you need a miter saw?

I thought the same thing when I got my MFT and soon learnt it was easier to use the miter saw for most miter cuts.

A miter saw also has bigger depth of cut compared to the TS-55 (about twice as much for a 10" miter saw)

I did use the MFT 1080 for the moldings in one of my suites and it did work fine (was too lazy to drag up the miter saw) but with the MFT 1080 you can only bevel one way so you must remember to flip the profile when cutting the other half of your miter joint. By the time I was done I had hardly any dust on the floor whereas my miter saw would have made a huge mess

The MFT 3 appears to bevel both ways which may make moldngs easier

Dan Clermont
[/quote]

Dan,
  I hook up my CT33 to the chop saw all the time.  It doesn't need to be a Festool to connect

 

[Ned]

  I hook up my CT33 to the chop saw all the time.  It doesn't need to be a Festool to connect

I do too, and you're right--it doesn't need to be a Festool to connect.  It just needs to be a Festool to work. 

 

[Dan Clermont]

Festool builds nice stuff. I don't regret buying any of the current Festool's I own and would buy them again in a heartbeat if something happened to them

$1300 is allot for a miter saw.... an awful lot. My current financial situation won't allow me to spend that kind of cash (my wife just switched careers and it'll take awhile before she gets established). It'll probably be a year before we know how successful she will be.

I hear allot of negatives about lasers on other saws or aftermarket lasers which don't work unless the blade is spinning. If Festool improved on this feature that would be help

The Festool saw is supposed to be lighter then the rest. When I did the moldings in a suite I used my MFT 1080 and TS 55 cause I didn't want to lug the big saw up the stairs. If the Festool saw was lighter that would help

Last weekend I was working on a house which is being renovated. The renovation is nearing completion and not having dust all over the place would have been nice.

If I was a pro I'd build one into the price of a job. My clients would love me for it. I am a hobbiest but do allot of work for others (more work then for myself). I get paid for some of these jobs and in a perfect world I'd like to own the KAPEX. Just not sure how to justify the cash at this time

Dan Clermont

 

[Dan Clermont]

  I hook up my CT33 to the chop saw all the time.  It doesn't need to be a Festool to connect

I do too, and you're right--it doesn't need to be a Festool to connect.  It just needs to be a Festool to work. 

I use my LS1013 with a D36 hose as well. It doesn't work as well as the KAPEX though. Nowhere near as well.

On the weekend I used a Dewalt 12" using a CT-33 and although it collected some dust. It caught nowhere near the dust the KAPEX would catch

Dan Clermont

 

[alg]

I wasn't sure dealers were supposed to publicly reveal the release date. I'm glad because that confirms the date I have been hearing.
Thus, I sold my Makita LS1013F for $350 and an old Thomas compressor plus nailers for another $300, returned the MFS700 for another $400. Now, I only need about $300 for the the Kapex. I can handle that.

The dust collection capability to me is the key. As much as I liked the Makita, I had a lot of cleaning up after using it. I also appreciate the way the rails are configured so the Kapex doesn't require as big of footprint. It can be happy mounted near a wall just like a fixed miter saw.  The other features simply make it almost idiot proof for a novice to get results of an experienced carpenter. 

With Festool, the hard part is coming up with the funds for the initial purchase price. Then, if you ever change your mind, the resale value is fantastic.

 

[Terp]

Is there a micro site for the Kapex, or videos on the european websites?

 

[Markus K.]

@Dan

The Laser on the Kapex has an extra Switch, so you can adjust and clamp the Workpiece without the Blade running.
Oh, talking about the Blade (60 Teeth), it makes the smoothest Cut I ever seen.

@alg

The Rail Construction is really a good solution, it needs nearly no Space behind the saw.

@Terp

Try this site, click on 'Hier starten', select Language and enjoy the Interactive Product Tour.
http://www.festool.de/artikel/artikel_weiterleiten.cfm?id=6658

Markus

 

[alg]

Follow the very good IPT (Interactive Product Tour) videos:http://www.festool.de/ipt_domino/

1. Click on English
2. Click on next, which is the >> symbols
3. Select Kapex KS120 (notice the other product tours)
4. Click on Details Kapex, Applications
5. Now you can view the multiple short videos showing the Kapex in action

Note to Festool, 5 steps is about 3 too many to get to the videos. This is a very good opportunity to showcase your tools. Access needs to be much easier, faster (sounds familiar) with the new FestoolUSA site.

Al