Kapex Mitre or Cope

[Neill]

Ken, Rick, Gary, etal...

My suggestion is don't do either.  Use plinth blocks in the corners.    [poke]  [wink]

They look great.  Kind of add a formal look to a room, if that's what you are after.

Neill

 

[jmbfestool]

Alan,

You left out termites that like to attack corners also known as mitermites. Most people just caulk them which leaves them in suspended animation.

Comedy!

 

[jmbfestool]

come on guys (not you ashley) stop nit picking. at the end of the day we are all certain that for one reason or another a mitered internal corner shows a larger gap than a coped one.
i personally think that it is a combination of a lot of things causing it
structure moving
wood drying out
structure drying out
not secured to the wall strong enough
gaps behind the skirting (base board)
warping wood
wood grown too fast

Why not Ashley? I see no Ashley comments?  [tongue]

Its  the same with architrave!  I have seen architrave open up due to shrinkage.    Thats why I like MDF and coping! Shame you cant cope architrave!

JMB

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Shame you cant cope architrave!

JMB

You can but this is another thing we don't talk about on a public forum, like secret nailing.  [wink]

I've considered everyone's opinions in this thread (mainly my own) and I've decided that wearing women's high heals is not as painful as being involved in this thread. If you're happy mitering, miter away. If you prefer coping, I applaud you (except Ashley). Try 'em both and have fun!

 

[mastercabman]

Alan,

.... mitermites.

They do exist?? ???

 

[Alan m]

jmb that was a pun on his name

 

[peter halle]

Ken,

My wife has agreed to supply you some very nice high heels so that you don't ruin yours in a work situation.  Perhaps you could model that kilt at the same time. 

In all seriousness, to the original poster, learn both ways, use whatever you are more comfortable with, and never ask anyone their preference unless you have an hour or more to spare.

Keep smiling!

Peter

 

[Ken Nagrod]

I take it back.  [big grin]  Join in the madness. Do both - mope.

 

[Alan m]

you could (as i seen on a site near me (i was there to fix) ) where the skirting was just square cut and butted together, no attempt to miter  or cope just a but of filler to hide the gap. it wasnt even painted but varnished [scared]

 

[fshanno]

I just found this thread.  Man this is fun.

I have an idea.  Buy trim that is impractical to cope.  You know, with grapes or ropes or something.  Then you can miter with a clear conscience.  

 

[jmbfestool]

I take it back.  [big grin]  Join in the madness. Do both - mope.

That does exist!    I have seen it done!   Its rubbish  but it was done!     This joiner came onto our job as we where short of joiners we had some come from the agency.  

Any way he did two things I wouldnt accept!

1. External mitres he use to just cut both baseboard pieces at 45degree regardless of the angle of the external wall if it was out he wouldnt adjust the angle so the shirt could would kick out or his joint would be open he said filler would sort that out when I said thats not very good!

2. I noticed he was coping for internal mitres which is fine!  Then when I saw the pieces attached to the wall they looked mitred.     I was confused! As he had done a MOPE!    

I asked him why is one skirting 1mm higher then the other but also I noticed your where coping the skirting (baseboard) but it looks like a mitred.       He showed me a piece he was working on!     Well what he did was cope all of it but the very top last 1mm instead of being coped he mitre it so it would sit on top of the other skirting which then give you the impression its mitred!    I said if you was the chisel a little rebate to take that 1mm so the skirting is flush then I would of been impressed but having it sticking up is Rubbish!

He said that is to much work!  I was SHOCKED!  I thought if your going to all that effort to make it look mitred why not do it properly!  I said most skirting on this job is done normal cope why arnt you just doing that he said it looks better.

JMB

 

[peter halle]

You actually can see this technique illustrated on Gary Katz's website.  For this who have never visited, there is a wealth of information there.  Here is the pictorial:  http://www.garymkatz.com/TrimTechniques/coping_chair_rail.htm

Peter

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Peter,

You actually understood his post?  [big grin]

 

[peter halle]

Of course I did!

 

[Deansocial]

JMB thats how i do it but actully sit it in to the other part

 

[speed]

me too, i leave the top mitred piece in, you have to cut it real thin tho

 

[jmbfestool]

You actually can see this technique illustrated on Gary Katz's website.  For this who have never visited, there is a wealth of information there.  Here is the pictorial:  http://www.garymkatz.com/TrimTechniques/coping_chair_rail.htm

Peter

Yeah that's what he did but the mitred section was thinner than that.  Garys way is what I was on about rebating it so it sat flush but joiner who did it on the baseboards like I mentioned had it sitting ontop which is crap.    Using a jigsaw to cope is a little rough aint it lol  Garys joint from the pictures aint perfect good job it's painted  [tongue] [tongue]

Jmb

 

[jmbfestool]

Peter,

You actually understood his post?  [big grin]

Of course he did I explained it extremely well ken! 

Jmb

 

[Deansocial]

You actually can see this technique illustrated on Gary Katz's website.  For this who have never visited, there is a wealth of information there.  Here is the pictorial:  http://www.garymkatz.com/TrimTechniques/coping_chair_rail.htm

Peter

Yeah that's what he did but the mitred section was thinner than that.  Garys way is what I was on about rebating it so it sat flush but joiner who did it on the baseboards like I mentioned had it sitting ontop which is crap.    Using a jigsaw to cope is a little rough aint it lol  Garys joint from the pictures aint perfect good job it's painted  [tongue] [tongue]

Jmb

yeah it does look a little rough on his picture but i use a jigsaw to scribe and get the same result as with a coping saw.

 

[jmbfestool]

JMB thats how i do it but actully sit it in to the other part

Dude! That's what I was saying the other joiner did  but I told him if he had rebated the other part I would off been impressed but he didn't. And you do the same? I'm disappointed Dean!

Jmb