Kapex observation.........

monte

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I was just reading Gary Katz's review on the Kapex  ( http://www.garymkatz.com/ToolReviews/Kapex.htm  )
and my eyes just kept on going back to the black tape he has wrapped around the vacuum hose where it is connected to the Kapex.

Am I missing something here?

Did he wrap it because......
a. the webbing catches on the Kapex as it goes up and down?  (this would not be good)
b. the green color of the hose clashes for sake of photo clarity?
c. ???

 
so if "a" the german Festool engineering response on a $1300 saw.......

would be Black Duck Tape?????
 
and if "a"........

why not supply a flexable smooth plastic sleeve for that portion of the hose???
 
I do not think that is a design flaw with the saw at all. It is up to you to decide how to fix the hose. They offer a couple of hose hooks you could use to lift the hose. Someone else might just route the hose and vac in a different location and it may not rub.

 
Nick,

hmmm, yeah, there is a  point in what you say.

butttt, having not used the saw as yet and looking at first and third usage photos in the article,

G R A V I T Y does seem to, how could I say........get in the way to a Festool Simple System Approach.

(as to a simple hook up and leave the vac under the table set up)

don't get me wrong Nick, I adore this company.....I'm not going to get into a list of the festools I have,

ok, a little bit.......4 / 1080 mft's & 3 / 800 mft's later ......believe me I'm into the system.

I would love to hear from someone who is already using the Kapex, as to whether the hose rubs, etc.
 
ps. I never actually used the term "design flaw"........................ just for the record.
 
monte said:
I was just reading Gary Katz's review on the Kapex  ( http://www.garymkatz.com/ToolReviews/Kapex.htm  )
and my eyes just kept on going back to the black tape he has wrapped around the vacuum hose where it is connected to the Kapex.

Am I missing something here?

Did he wrap it because......
a. the webbing catches on the Kapex as it goes up and down?  (this would not be good)
b. the green color of the hose clashes for sake of photo clarity?
c. ???

How about...

c. the black tape is nothing to do with the Kapex. He simply attached a hose that he had lying around, which already had some black tape on it.

Forrest

 
Didn't touch the Kapex and make such conclusion? This tape has nothing to do with Kapex. If you're sorry for 1300 bucks (valueless anyway in your recession), buy some noname and don't solve the tape or a vac hose.
Josef
 
jo041326 said:
Didn't touch the Kapex and make such conclusion? This tape has nothing to do with Kapex. If you're sorry for 1300 bucks (valueless anyway in your recession), buy some noname and don't solve the tape or a vac hose.
Josef

Seems like someone is always looking for a handout in those valueless American dollars though... huh

Edward Wilson
 
Forrest Anderson said:
How about...

c. the black tape is nothing to do with the Kapex. He simply attached a hose that he had lying around, which already had some black tape on it.

Forrest

This is the correct answer. Also note that the dustport of the Kapex is directional, I for example have it usually coming from the side, depending on where the ct is stationed. There are some tools with which I do sometimes experience hose-snagging issues, (of1100 is a good example), but the Kapex doesn't have the sharp edges for the hose to snag on, unlike the wood / door / panels I had the hose-snagging problems with.
 
monte said:
so if "a" the german Festool engineering response on a $1300 saw.......

would be Black Duck Tape?????
Of course not, If "a" was the case, they would recommend buying the 240$ boom arm...  ;D

(I did remember another solution I saw for my own occasional hose-fight, getting two of those metal spiral things and mounting one on the CT, the second on a wood block, and put that one on the workpiece/table.) Or try the duck tape...
 
What Frank-Jan said, I have no snagging issues, I use a CT22 with no black tape. ;D
 
jo041326 said:
Didn't touch the Kapex and make such conclusion? This tape has nothing to do with Kapex. If you're sorry for 1300 bucks (valueless anyway in your recession), buy some noname and don't solve the tape or a vac hose.
Josef

Ouch again Josef. I'd like to think I had some value in my dollar, I worked my ass off for it. ;D
 
Guys,

Are we really investing such time in a thread based on speculation about why Gary put tape on a vac hose?  Why not wait until we actually have a problem before we try to solve it.
:o :o ::) ::) ???
 
As I said I think it is a non issue, but some people may want to know what may aggravate them about the saw BEFORE they have a problem, not after. And this forum is all about threads on speculation, where else would monte talk about his thoughts?
 
Easy there Josef........
That's a VERY sensitive issue with most if not all of us proud Americans. You are welcome to comment but think before typing.
Thank you.
 
........thank you Nick for that last thought, and thank you Spike, I was merely pointing out an observation as I have worked quite a lot with that green hose.

........it was said in the "SPIRIT" of improvement.

(sort of the same type of observation when Festool first came out with the boom arm with the white polyethylene insert that the upper arm swings on from the lower tube.

In time that tended to sag some and recently they improved upon it with a milled aluminum insert .........which now I have to say works beautifully.)

ps. we really needn't talk about the black duck tape anymore.

monte
 
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