Kapex zero clearance insert

[jmac80]

Hello

Does anyone know where I can purchase a Betterley zero clearance insert for the kapex in the uk?
Can only find them in one USA shop and they don't currently ship to the uk.
If no uk suppliers does anyone know of a USA/Canadian supplier that ships to the uk?
I know you can make your own but I like the look of the Betterley one

Thanks

 

[copcarcollector]

If you cant find one or a shop to ship to you, let me know, I will be happy to purchase one and ship it to you myself. Jeff

 

[jmac80]

Great Jeff, many thanks I shall let you know.

 

[Birdhunter]

Does Amazon ship stuff to the UK? I've used them to get stuff from the UK to the USA.

 

[Cheese]

I've used Amazon UK and they've shipped stuff to me all the time. A bit slow, but it always arrives safe & sound.

 

[Ed Bray]

Me knows!

CD UK Ltd
Wakefield House
Gildersome Spur
Morley
Leeds
LS27 7JZ
Tel: 0113 201 2240
Fax: 0113 253 0717
Email: info@cdukltd.co.uk
Contact: John Firth

 

[jmac80]

Thanks Ed
I have sent them an email will see what they come back with

EDIT: ordered 2  ;D

 

[Mbconstructionjoinery]

Can I ask what the price was?

 

[jmac80]

Sure
For 2 of them i think it was £55 delivered.
Don't tell the wife 
I know you can make your own for pennies but i wanted a sweet looking betterley one  [big grin]

 

[joiner1970]

Do you guys never do bevel cuts then ? Every time you need to do a bevel cut you'd have to remove the insert and replace the original or ruin the insert.

Seems like a lot of hassle unless you don't ever bevel

 

[Birdhunter]

Seldom bevel cut. When I do, I remove zero clearance and replace with original Festool plate.

 

[jmac80]

Seldom bevel cut. When I do, I remove zero clearance and replace with original Festool plate.

Seldom here also.

 

[jmac80]

Post just turned up with my 2 betterley inserts, Real nice, well made and a bit of weight to them.
Seem quality.

 

[sancho57]

I make my own insert .

Not that big of a deal

 

[jmac80]

I make my own insert .

Not that big of a deal

I buy them, also not a big deal  [big grin]

 

[Rick Christopherson]

Do you guys never do bevel cuts then ? Every time you need to do a bevel cut you'd have to remove the insert and replace the original or ruin the insert.

Seems like a lot of hassle unless you don't ever bevel

I've noticed that many woodworkers tend to equate the purpose of a ZCI on a miter saw as being similar to a ZCI on a tablesaw. On a tablesaw, the ZCI is generally considered to help reduce bottom-side tearout, especially when crosscutting sheet products. This is why the ZCI must be kept very close to the blade to be effective. It's like the splinter guards on track saws.

However, for a miter saw, the blade teeth are moving in the opposite direction, and are entering the workpiece on the underside of the cut. The primary purpose of a ZCI on a miter saw (aside from aesthetics) is to prevent small offcuts from falling between the blade and the table. It's existence does not affect bottom-side tearout in any way. For this reason, a ZCI on a miter saw does not need to be as tight to the blade to be effective.

P.S. It is a zero-clearance fence that will help reduce back-side tearout on a miter saw.

 

[joiner1970]

Still seems odd to me Rick. As soon as you do a bevel cut you loose a big chunk of your insert.

 

[Rick Christopherson]

No, you don't really cut into the insert very much from a bevel cut. Kapex has a zero-point entry for the blade bevel, just like the TS55/75 saws. Yes, it will tend to widen the slot, but not by much. As a matter of fact, I just checked my own insert, and the majority of the extra width in the slot was the result of blade deflection in non-beveled cuts.

Here is something that is kind of cool that I discovered when I took a picture just for your question. I just realized that my insert is exactly 7-years and 23-hours old!! This is the same insert shown in the Supplemental Manual, and when I checked the photo-date, it was 9-23-08 at 1:00 pm.

In all these years, it really has not opened up very much. In that time, I have used every blade that Festool makes, cut wood, plastic, vinyl tile, aluminum plate, aluminum tube, and I'm sure a few other things I've forgotten. It's not even close to needing to be replaced yet.

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