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onocoffee

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With the 100th anniversary of a company, I would have thought there would be some kind of celebration. Kinda surpised/disappointed that there's been so little fanfare - that even their supposed stream at 5pm today has a surprising scarcity of information.

Is this event supposed to be just for influenzers or did any of the real users of Festool get invited? Wondering if anyone from here was invited?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFoDfGUTvrH/

And will the 100th Anniversary Domino have the logo on the tool?
 
onocoffee said:
With the 100th anniversary of a company, I would have thought there would be some kind of celebration. Kinda surpised/disappointed that there's been so little fanfare - that even their supposed stream at 5pm today has a surprising scarcity of information.

Is this event supposed to be just for influenzers or did any of the real users of Festool get invited? Wondering if anyone from here was invited?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFoDfGUTvrH/

And will the 100th Anniversary Domino have the logo on the tool?

Can only assume, at this stage, that there are no new tools to announce for their 100th - apart from the sander with a light, from the other day, I think?
'Influencers' posing for photos and slapping each other on the back is not exactly what pro users of Festool want to see. And if I were a hardcore non-pro user, I'd feel the same.
 
My guess is that they are going to spread out any Anniversary offerings thru out the year rather than just one splash.  I would venture that the influencers were the primary invitees if the past is any indication.

Peter
 
I've been patiently awaiting the first promo for the year here in OZ thinking it will be great, I'm very disappointed in the meagre offerings.

Hoping the next one is better.
 
luvmytoolz said:
I've been patiently awaiting the first promo for the year here in OZ thinking it will be great, I'm very disappointed in the meagre offerings.

Hoping the next one is better.

There are some up today, which offer some good value.
 
Lincoln said:
Can only assume, at this stage, that there are no new tools to announce for their 100th - apart from the sander with a light, from the other day, I think?
'Influencers' posing for photos and slapping each other on the back is not exactly what pro users of Festool want to see. And if I were a hardcore non-pro user, I'd feel the same.

I just heard back from Festool via IG and there is no live program which I think it wildly disappointing for a major milestone for the company. This was the opportunity for presentations about the company, commemorative releases and general hype - especially for a company that does a livestream every week.

Like you, I'm not terribly interested in seeing IG posts about influencers taking pictures. Such a missed opportunity and a Big FAIL.

Oh well, back to work.
 
Lincoln said:
luvmytoolz said:
I've been patiently awaiting the first promo for the year here in OZ thinking it will be great, I'm very disappointed in the meagre offerings.

Hoping the next one is better.

There are some up today, which offer some good value.

If you were after the Rotex or the Domino there's a good deal there, but the stuff I'm after, the TSC55 base isn't on promo, only the full set, the recipro saw isn't on promo, the BHC18 base is reduced to $589 which I guess isn't bad, but not earth shattering. Just seems underwhelming to me, the promo is mostly targeting the big ticket set items.
 
I’m planning to adopt onocoffe’s “influenzers” typo into my vernacular as I generally hold the whole influencer ecosystem thing in low regard….. [smile]
 
I know of a handful of local, professional carpenters who were invited to the Festool event in Indiana, so it's not just influencers.

Back in 2017 Festool had an open house, I'll be curious to see if they have something similar later this year? We're barely two months into the year, I suspect they'll be promoting and celebrating the centenary on a regular basis the rest of the year....
 
And why would anyone buy a DF500 Domino now with the 100 years branding? If holding out hope for something new or updated? The video showing off some of the "minor" other improvements was really depressing. I just think the slowness around improving the legacy tools is beyond reason. It feels more like sliding backwards. Plus, more and more the items Festool offers say Made in China. The behemoth looms and will likely out compete Festool. I'd like to hope they can resist but it seems unlikely. I know China's expertise is top notch in a lot of ways but still a premium product coming out of China can't be at the same price point. If it's better then even worse. All this is to say the 100 year celebration is kind of moot. The world is changing fast, really fast.
 
Vtshopdog said:
I’m planning to adopt onocoffe’s “influenzers” typo into my vernacular as I generally hold the whole influencer ecosystem thing in low regard….. [smile]

Pretty sure that wasn't a typo.  [big grin]
 
mcooley said:
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Plus, more and more the items Festool offers say Made in China. The behemoth looms and will likely out compete Festool. I'd like to hope they can resist but it seems unlikely.
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Um, FUD-ing much?
The Chinese tool OEMs are not even trying to compete with the mainstream brands. Not to mention with niche makers like Festool, Mafell, Fein, etc.

At present, there is one (1) very specfic tool which Festool outsources to a chinese supplier. That is the cordless recip saw. A 18V platform filler so many kept asking for.

And that is IMO because this type of a tool is not manufactured anywhere else in the world these days.*) There is literally no know-how on how to make it in Europe, and never was to begin. Before china became the world's workshop these were US imports.

mcooley said:
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I know China's expertise is top notch in a lot of ways but still a premium product coming out of China can't be at the same price point. If it's better then even worse. ...
Indeed, that would warrant a proper surcharge.

/Ever heard of that funky tile-shaped thingie certain Fruity company sells for $1000+ ?/

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*) I am not implying the chinese factories or engineers cannot make as good or better tools as Festool. They certainly can. But it is impractical/impossible/inefficient to manage/control integrated manufacturing across big distances, not mention across continents. Currently ALL Festool factories and their core supply chain are within a couple hours drive between them, R&D centers including. It is simply impossible to "just add a factory" even in, say, Romania, still within the EU as it would be physically too far for integrated low-series manufacturing the style Festool does. Even the only non-German "Czech" Narex factory I mention so often, is just a few kilometres from the German border. It is closer to Festool HQ than many regions of Germany are..
 
I just saw the 100-year anniversay Domino set. You get some labeling on the (blue) systainer, but deleting the cross-stops and the narrow item fence to save $180 (cross stops are essential in my experience).

In the meantime, all the known problems with the DF500 remain unaddressed - even though they were fixed in the later (and larger) DF700.

Disappointing.
 
smorgasbord said:
I just saw the 100-year anniversay Domino set. You get some labeling on the (blue) systainer, but deleting the cross-stops and the narrow item fence to save $180 (cross stops are essential in my experience).
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I think that is a typo. In Europe we have:
DF 500 Q-Plus 100Y Limited Edition (has the same items as "normal" Plus bundle + the cap)

Do note the 100th edition is about €50 cheaper compared to a "normal" Plus bundle sold here.

on FUSA I see:
DF 500 Q-Set 100Y Limited Edition (again, same items as "normal" Plus bundle + the cap)

[member=101]Festool USA[/member]
Seems the listing on FUSA for the 100th years Domino has a copy-paste error in saying it is a "Set" instead of "Plus" - as the bundle contents indicate.
 
Here are the photos on ToolNirvana's website:
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OK, but you're right - when I click in they show the cross-stops and narrow trim fence as being included.
 

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Well, these screen shots both come from the Festool USA website...just look at what's under the "Includes" headline.

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[member=44099]Cheese[/member] - I think you're looking at the "wrong" Domino - that's the regular release. The 100th Anniversary release offers less for a prettier systainer.

 

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Looks like, for once, we're getting an ok deal down here in Aus - full Domino set (which includes cross stop and trim stop) + tenon/cutter systainer set + branded cooler bag for $300 off our normal price.
 
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