Lack of 110v options on some tools ( uk)

[carlb40]

OMG I have started WW111 on voltage

[big grin]

 

[carlb40]

Thanks guys

Hi Carl

We can order, in fact any dealer should be able to special order the RTS or DTS 400 sanders in 110v, we have done it many times. There is a small premium for the socket and lead change but no more than a tenner. As for other tools, we did ask about DOMINO XL's but were knocked back. All the PROTOOL machines were 240v, so no 110v option on the DR drill I'm afraid. The only exception, years ago were mixer drills, the MXP's, were marketed in the UK by a firm in 110v, but they are no longer available.

Ask your favourite dealer to enquire for you or give us a call, 01483 727227.

Best regards

Warren

Thank you Warren. The quad drill was the main one for me. I guess for work i won't be able to enjoy a complete festool system.  [scared]

 

[Davej]

Ts55r - 240v = 1200w
Ts55r - 110v = 1050w

Carvex 240v= 500w
Carve 110v = 400w

Dave

 

[jmbfestool]

Ts55r - 240v = 1200w
Ts55r - 110v = 1050w

Carvex 240v= 500w
Carve 110v = 400w

Dave

Still doesn't answer the massive voltage drop my mates TS was experiencing when I started my TS my TS was superior haha!

Watts mean nothing to me totally irrelevant.

Example.    Company I worked for bought a lot of dewalt stuff chopsaws, table saws etc all brand new. I was given the responsibility to look after all tools on site.  I was excited using all this new gear to find out non of it was up to much really.  All dewalt tools claim lots of power loads of WATTS.  Yet my Makita stuff lower watts just farted all over the dewalt stuff.

They bought the dewalt flip saw chopsaw/table saw can't remember how many watts that was but it was a lot I think a 20watts motor had more power than that thing.    We tried different transformers and big transformers and thicker 110v leads.    It got returned to see if it was faulty but they said nothing was wrong.  I said to the Forman best thing you can do with it is throw it in the skip.

 

[jmbfestool]

Just googled the flip saw 2000watts input 1550 Watts output  more like 20watts output.

 

[Deansocial]

Some tools are spot on in 110v other fail big time. Like the dewalt 712 chopsaw, the 110v version is like using a toy. I have an hitatchi circular saw that has oceans of power in 110v

 

[shed9]

Ts55r - 240v = 1200w
Ts55r - 110v = 1050w

Carvex 240v= 500w
Carve 110v = 400w

Dave

Okay I concede there is a difference in terms of Festool site tools. I'll get me coat  [embarassed]

 

[carlb40]

Ts55r - 240v = 1200w
Ts55r - 110v = 1050w

Carvex 240v= 500w
Carve 110v = 400w

Dave

Okay I concede there is a difference in terms of Festool site tools. I'll get me coat  [embarassed]

I'm not sure it's limited to festool. When i bought my big PC router the 240v version was listed as 2400w i think and the 110v version was 1750w

However my 110v PC router has never felt under powered whether hand held doing worktops or using 3'' panel raising bits in a table.  [big grin] 

 

[Davej]

My stuff is all 110v .  think my ts struggles sometimes,  but the carvex never has. my metabo slider ( kgs 254 plus , heavy but v.good dust extraction ) goes through anything like a hot knife through butter. Everything else is fine as well.
Dave

 

[wrightwoodwork]

Lots of tools in 110 are a lower wattage I think it is to do with the size of fuse that dictates the max wattage. On my table saw 1800watts /110v equals 16.36 so a 16amp fuse. Where the 220 version is 2250 watts. To be truthful I've never had an issue with the power. The only time that has being using the vac at the the same time and doing a lot of full depth rips and the transformer has not being able to keep up as it is above its continuous rating of 1800 watts. Do I just use a second in them occasions. It's just the auto start won't work. Which us a minor issue

 

[Davej]

Lots of tools in 110 are a lower wattage I think it is to do with the size of fuse that dictates the max wattage. On my table saw 1800watts /110v equals 16.36 so a 16amp fuse. Where the 220 version is 2250 watts. To be truthful I've never had an issue with the power. The only time that has being using the vac at the the same time and doing a lot of full depth rips and the transformer has not being able to keep up as it is above its continuous rating of 1800 watts. Do I just use a second in them occasions. It's just the auto start won't work. Which us a minor issue

What size transformer are you using ?

 

[wrightwoodwork]

It's a 3.5 kva ( think that's right) with a continuos rating of 1800. A lot of them are only 1650 rating

 

[andyman]

Cordless is the way especially if working on site just need a cordless vac.

Hilti do a cordless vac 2 36v batteries I think about 800 quid I think plus vat

 

[wrightwoodwork]

Yes I'm busy debating in my head to get it. It can operate off 1 36v battery as well as 2 36v batteries.    I have had a brief look in the shop. I also asked about how the fleet management works and am put off. The reason being I feel it works out very expensive haven't worked out the cost. The biggest issue is that at the end of the contract it goes back and is basically put in the bin. To me that is like saying our tools are only going to last 2/3 years then it's had it. Do back to square 1. I have the cordless kss400 which basically covers all my saw needs saves the hassle of the generator. I can use it for everything from 1st fix, 2nd fix, stud partions, roofs,floors basically it covers everything I need it to do jig saves having to have several saws like a chop saw, track saw, table saw

 

[andyman]

Yeah fleet management the same as leasing a van. If you need a lot of kit or a have a lot of employees may be worth it I'm same seems expensive to me as well

 

[Stephen B]

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I am not going to pursue 110 vs 240v, although I live in an exclusive 220/240V country.
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But I can emphasis the need for good circuit breaker technology, particularly after planning through the power cord of a Makita planer two years ago.  [eek]

Makita and I survived due to breaker speed,  but Makita now features a bright safety orange power cord.

 

[Pixel]

Well I am going to stand my ground on this one, 230V with a double pole circuit breaker is the safest option and is used throughout the world as a standard, only the UK stays by its old rulings because of the use of single pole circuit breakers on a ring main.
Also I have been upgrading the 110V tools I have to 230V, same manufactures and same model number, trust me the 230V tools feel more powerful the minute you switch them on especially noticable with routers and saws.

 

[jmbfestool]

Well I am going to stand my ground on this one, 230V with a double pole circuit breaker is the safest option and is used throughout the world as a standard, only the UK stays by its old rulings because of the use of single pole circuit breakers on a ring main.
Also I have been upgrading the 110V tools I have to 230V, same manufactures and same model number, trust me the 230V tools feel more powerful the minute you switch them on especially noticable with routers and saws.

+1 totally agree.

240v is superior.  I'll never be convinced 110v is equally as power full by people just coming up with figures 1000watts etc bla bla . I'll only be convinced the day I use a 110v and 240v tools in reall life  which actually have equal power in use. 

 

[AlexThePalex]

About watts, the number alone indeed doesn't say it all. There is a difference between how much power a tool draws from the net, and how much it actually gives off to the work piece. They call it the electric efficiency. The efficiency can vary greatly between tools.

If you buy a professional drill with 750 watts, and an el cheapo drill that's also 750 watt, you'll find that the pro drill has a lot more power. That's because the more expensive parts and materials used in the pro drill lead to better electric efficiency, converting more watts into torque.

Maybe there is also such a difference between 220 and 110 volt tools, perhaps not quality wise, but because of the principle behind it? Just theorising here, I've got no practical experience with 110v tools.

 

[Davej]

Just been to the roadshow and the rep admitted that 240v tools have more power than 110v .
Case closed  [tongue] JMB wins  [smile]
Dave