Laguna table saw
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felkadelic
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Heard absolute horror stories about their customer service, but the actual machines seem nice enough.
I don't know anything about the subject saw, it looks nice enough and has several good reviews. As far as customer service FWIW - I've had one of their sliders for ~10 years and although it's been trouble free I have bought some upgrades and needed a little input on how best to install them and the CS has been great.
JCLP said:
The first response is a good one. Why do you want to replace it? Is it underpowered? Is the shaft wobbly? Is there something that makes it inaccurate? Some things you can fix with after market accessories or jigs. Others are not fixable. I would be the last to discourage the purchase of a new tool. When I did finally replace my saw, it was because there was really nothing I could do to resolve the problem my saw caused for me and it was years after I first thought about replacement because it really did serve my needs during that time.
Then, why the Laguna? There are so many choices out there. Have you looked at all of them, compared prices, reviews, features? I'm not saying the Laguna is bad or good because I don't know. These days, there are so many choices for table saws, it is to your advantage to look at all of the me before buying. With all tools I buy, I find that, unless I assess my needs and compare the range of choices on the market, I generally end up with something that either doesn't completely meet my needs.
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I replaced a perfectly good Delta Unisaw after 15 years of flawless service.
I got a much bigger and heavier saw with better power. The new saw had absolutely no detectable vibration. It had a much better fence. It was in every respect, a significantly better machine. And, it had a unique safety feature that offered a high probability of not hurting me if I screwed up.
Sawstop.
You might want to look at the brand before you buy something else.
I got a much bigger and heavier saw with better power. The new saw had absolutely no detectable vibration. It had a much better fence. It was in every respect, a significantly better machine. And, it had a unique safety feature that offered a high probability of not hurting me if I screwed up.
Sawstop.
You might want to look at the brand before you buy something else.
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I also picked up a Sawstop, used CS with a 52" fence. Been quite happy with it. Amazon.com had a used one at a good price.
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In my opinion buying a cabinet saw is like buying an old saw based off old designs. If someone wants to buy a new table saw, why not buy the newer technology? Why not buy a sliding table saw? They really don't cost that much more money and they give you the most accurate cuts all the time. Laguna makes nice machines from the experience I have taken with people that have them. I feel you would be happy, but have very little improvements in the aspect of being more accurate.
That's just food for thought. I am curious how many Europeans in today's world buy cabinet saws instead of a sliding saw? I really don't have any idea I just feel like Europe is a step ahead on woodworking in a lot of aspects. I feel most would buy a sliding saw.
That's just food for thought. I am curious how many Europeans in today's world buy cabinet saws instead of a sliding saw? I really don't have any idea I just feel like Europe is a step ahead on woodworking in a lot of aspects. I feel most would buy a sliding saw.
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Other than cross cuts, what is the advantage of a sliding saw over a table saw?
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Birdhunter said:
'GTS' it.
I got this:http://fpartner2009.felder-group.com/files/testreport/tsr_pdf_241_1_703.pdf
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Birdhunter said:
Other than cut sheet goods down easily. The main thing to me is straight line rip stock down. Perfectly sized rips as well. No picnic back of between your wood and fence to kick back and cause a missing finger. Ultimate dust collection. Cross cut perfect pieces every time. I haven't seen miters done on one but I'm sure it's possible. This is just me hitting the ice burg. When I get a tool in my hands that's why I come up with my nifty ideas. Also the hammers come standard with a scoring blade for tear out free cuts!
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P.S. Stubborn Americans be prepared to have your mind blown and than say it's stupid because that's not how your dad showed you. I'm kidding really I'm and American myself
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teocaf said:
I wish...
I have an MFT with a MT55.
I am considering a proper table saw, but will likely go with a contractor's saw.
The local lumber yard has something that looks almost the same as the big Hammer/Felder machines.
Really if the craftsman is working, then a craftsman equivalent with an explosive brake is not a great improvement unless you are wanting to be running your hand into the blade.
The upgrade for me would be a slider.
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Well, I'm an American, proud of it, and not stubborn. I've never seen a sliding saw in my 30 plus years of woodworking except on the Internet.
I tend to buy the best products that offer an excellent chance of getting good support. If I lived in Europe where sliding saws are common and where dealers are more local, I'd definitely consider buying one, especially if it had the Sawstop safety feature.
Not stubborn, just a realist.
I tend to buy the best products that offer an excellent chance of getting good support. If I lived in Europe where sliding saws are common and where dealers are more local, I'd definitely consider buying one, especially if it had the Sawstop safety feature.
Not stubborn, just a realist.
I misunderstood, Holmz. When you wrote 'I got this:...' , I thought you owned the same saw in that link. That's alright, I'll ask my European slider follow-up questions in another thread and hopefully hear from actual owners, and not some tool aficionado with a wish list and strong opinions on how to spend money not their own. Which brings me to the OP's inquiry, which the way I'm reading it, is simply asking for feedback from actual owners of a specific saw--the Laguna Infinity. What follows is nothing remotely related to that very specific query. Instead one reads things like saw stop is equivalent to a craftsman saw, or that a hammer slider is about the same money as that Infinity--all kinds of bogus statements that neither help the OP's query nor anyone else for that matter. It's alright to rant and rave, freedom of speech and all that, but it would help if the arguments had at least some basis in fact.
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teocaf said:
The beauty and the curse of forum questions is that they bring all sorts of perspectives.
I believe that asking the questions that I did, helps the OP to work through the trade space.
At least I would appreciate people asking those questions.
The one 'fact' is that if a replacement saw did not have some advantage, then it would not be a good value as there is no greater value but it has a greater cost...
However I am sure I would be happy with any of the saws mentioned.
Apologies if my words did not convey my intent well. I will work on that.
Edit: The other aspect is that I like to ask the questions that I have going on myself. So understanding how others rate their needs helps me to work through the tradespace myself. That might be selfish [embarassed]
European sliding saws are not uncommon in the US. They are however, much like the panel saws mostly used by commercial/industrial high end/high quantity users. Beam saws are another commonly used tool used in industry but never seen by the majority of contractors/dyi people. Price and size usually the reason but in Europe are marketed in downsize versions even to hobbyists. Like many things European marketing in the US has just not caught up.
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