I bought the Barrina LEDs on Cheese's recommendation and couldn't be happier. We shoot quite a few Woodpeckers videos in my shop, and the head videographer loves the lighting in my shop. They are a little glaring when you look directly at them, but once you get over looking at them to see "them", all you have is nice even bright light.
LED Lighting Help (Cheese, Please)
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Cheese said:
Searched, fell down a rabbit hole, had to climb out to eat breakfast.
So much great information has been collected on this forum over the years, I love it!
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squall_line said:
Found it...[big grin]...this thread started with a complaint about garage lighting and a consideration of using a Syslite Duo for the garage.
https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/...syslite-duo-led-light-for-workshop-garage/30/
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I used 4 of these in my shop, lights it up like day light no shadows no need for other lighting
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Sunco+Lighting+2+Pack+UFO+LED+High+Bay%2C+150W%2C+600W+HID+Replacement%2C+21%2C000+LM%2C+5000K+Daylight%2C+IP65+Waterproof%2C+Commercial+Grade+Lighting%2C+Hook+Mount%2C+Warehouse+-+UL%2C+DLC&i=tools&ref=nb_sb_noss
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Sunco+Lighting+2+Pack+UFO+LED+High+Bay%2C+150W%2C+600W+HID+Replacement%2C+21%2C000+LM%2C+5000K+Daylight%2C+IP65+Waterproof%2C+Commercial+Grade+Lighting%2C+Hook+Mount%2C+Warehouse+-+UL%2C+DLC&i=tools&ref=nb_sb_noss
Thus far there has been talk of color temperature, expressed in Kelvin, such as 3000K, 4000K, 5000K, etc... Color temperature largely comes down to personal preference. Most warm white bulbs are around 2700K, daylight around 5500K, horrid blue replacement auto headlights around 6500K and up. Personally, for task based lighting, I very much prefer 5000K. For some folks, 5000K is a bit brutal in how it can feel somewhat clinical, but I like that because I don't want any strange yellow/orange/red or blue color casts. Relaxing at night, definitely a warmer light.
Something not mentioned so far in this thread is Color Rendering Index (CRI) and the potential impact it can have on the accuracy of colors. Besides being a noob woodworker, I'm a tad bit geeky over flashlights and I'm also into photography. Common theme of light? Yep. Low CRI lights in photography can make a person's skin look sickly. Colors aren't accurate and the overall quality can just be not awesome. The biggest impact I can imagine a low CRI light would have in woodworking is in finishes. A red you thought looked nice in the store or in your shop doesn't look quite right in sunlight (100 CRI). If you were looking at it under a light of 5500K (or so) and a high CRI, it'd probably look the way you hoped.
Coming back to this thread... I wanted some good lighting for our tiny workshed and I also wanted something with a decent CRI. I stumbled across the Barrina 4' and 8' in 5000K and I went with the 6 pack of 4' lights. A representative from Barrina claims the CRI value is somewhere in the neighborhood of 82 or 85, though I don't recall the exact spec. I'm happy to report their claims are accurate. How does one measure these values? In my case, a Sekonic C-800 Spectromaster.
Here's a good article on CRI.https://www.waveformlighting.com/high-cri-led
Something not mentioned so far in this thread is Color Rendering Index (CRI) and the potential impact it can have on the accuracy of colors. Besides being a noob woodworker, I'm a tad bit geeky over flashlights and I'm also into photography. Common theme of light? Yep. Low CRI lights in photography can make a person's skin look sickly. Colors aren't accurate and the overall quality can just be not awesome. The biggest impact I can imagine a low CRI light would have in woodworking is in finishes. A red you thought looked nice in the store or in your shop doesn't look quite right in sunlight (100 CRI). If you were looking at it under a light of 5500K (or so) and a high CRI, it'd probably look the way you hoped.
Coming back to this thread... I wanted some good lighting for our tiny workshed and I also wanted something with a decent CRI. I stumbled across the Barrina 4' and 8' in 5000K and I went with the 6 pack of 4' lights. A representative from Barrina claims the CRI value is somewhere in the neighborhood of 82 or 85, though I don't recall the exact spec. I'm happy to report their claims are accurate. How does one measure these values? In my case, a Sekonic C-800 Spectromaster.
Here's a good article on CRI.https://www.waveformlighting.com/high-cri-led
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I really like the size, extreme light weight, and streamlined form of the Barrina fixtures but I don't like that the strips of LEDs are angled 45 degrees off the vertical axis. that broadcasts a substantial amount of the light towards the ceiling so if you don't have a flat light colored ceiling right behind the fixture a lot of that light is wasted. Also results in light shining in your eyes when across the room from the fixture.
Also, I prefer 4000 degree Kelvin color. To me and my wife it's a better compromise between incandescent and daylight.
My favorite LED fixtures seem to be out of stock. Bought them from Rockler. More like conventional fixtures in form compared to the very slick looking Barrina's but still light enough for easy installation. The LED's are within a shallow rectangular enclosure and aim straight down. Merely workman like in appearance but they're 10,000 lumens at 4000K color. Also bought a couple of 5000LM versions. Wish they still had some product to link to. Haven't seen anything identical elsewhere.
Also, I prefer 4000 degree Kelvin color. To me and my wife it's a better compromise between incandescent and daylight.
My favorite LED fixtures seem to be out of stock. Bought them from Rockler. More like conventional fixtures in form compared to the very slick looking Barrina's but still light enough for easy installation. The LED's are within a shallow rectangular enclosure and aim straight down. Merely workman like in appearance but they're 10,000 lumens at 4000K color. Also bought a couple of 5000LM versions. Wish they still had some product to link to. Haven't seen anything identical elsewhere.
The Barrina fixtures definitely could use some form of diffusion. Although, at their price and quality I'm certainly not going to ding them any points. In my case, I was coming from 2 x 4' fluorescent fixtures that were on their last legs and barely putting out any light. Three of the Barrina 4' units and the whole work shed is now lit up very well. Sure beats straining to see everything!
I have tried a number of light systems and the best one to date is this type of panel....https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LED-Pan...n-from-29-95/192452386551?hash=item2ccf0e5ef7:g:QyAAAOSwV6heRHUj
A panel such as this does not have tubes in it but hundreds of separate LEDS and gives an extremely even light distribution and can be installed flush to the ceiling if that is an issue.
A panel such as this does not have tubes in it but hundreds of separate LEDS and gives an extremely even light distribution and can be installed flush to the ceiling if that is an issue.
