Loaning-out Festool

Do you loan out your Festool gear?

  • Yes (to anyone that asks)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sometimes (only to friends/family/coworkers)

    Votes: 26 25.5%
  • Never (say away from my green kool-aid!)

    Votes: 76 74.5%

  • Total voters
    102
  • Poll closed .

B_Swanson

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I just showed a neighbor my new Domino, and he asked what else was in my small but growing stack of Systainers.  This got me thinking about the inevitable request to borrow the tools.  Effective excuses for not loaning the tools out are welcome.

Brad
 
I did.  To my best friend.  We have been friends since our freshman year in high school (1992).  I let him borrow my TS55 and CT MIDI.  He wanted to thank me so he bought me a new blade and a 5 pack of vac bags.  His wife was so impressed with the amount of dust the system DIDN'T  produce, she told him he needed to buy one.  [big grin].  She had no clue what Festool cost and when my friend told her how much they where her response was "It's a good thing Eric owns it".

Funny little story between my friend and I.  But I would let him borrow anything. 

But if a neighbor came to me wanting to borrow a Festool,  that would be a different story.  I would cut if for him, or sand it for him before I let him borrow it.

Eric
 
I try not to loan them to anyone other than family, and even then...

"The saw just jumped off the track"

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I bet it did  ::)

erock said:
But if a neighbor came to me wanting to borrow a Festool,  that would be a different story.  I would cut if for him, or sand it for him before I let him borrow it.

Eric

That's the way to go. 

 
I have and I am pretty sure that most people treat them better then I do.

Kind of like the mud I got in my new Domino today........
 
Kind of like the mud I got in my new Domino today........
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What???? [scared]
 
Darcy, Buddy,  Nothing personal, but my insurance policy doesn't cover my tools if I loan them to you.   [big grin] [big grin]

Glad to see you back!

Peter
 
One of my mentors, a crusty, persnickity, bastardly, sweetheart of a craftsman has a sign in his shop:

"Don't ask me to borrow my tools. I won't ask you to borrow your wife."

I must get a picture of it next time I stop over.
 
I loan them out to a select group of friends, family and neighbours who I trust in using them. I never had a bad experience with that.

It's simple, they help me out, I help them out. I don't have every tool I need, so I myself borrow tools from other people sometimes. A welder, a ladder or a perhaps even a car.

I would be a real a-hole if I didn't return the favour. Not that I'm that kind of person anyway, I have no problem loaning my 'precious' tools to people I trust.

After all, they're just tools. Inanimate objects meant to be used under abusive conditions. I myself deal the biggest part of the abuse. They're not my kids, nor my priceless rare stamp collection. I do treat my tools with respect, but I don't pamper them.

If something got seriously broken by somebody else, I would repair it and they would pay for it, no doubt. So far that never happened.    
 
I tend to think like Darcy.  I am harder on my Festool,  Sigma, Raimondi, and Fein tools than anyone else would be.  To Reassure those of you who treat your Festools better than your Children  [wink]  they are built as durable as they are precise--Except for the TS foot jumping out of alignment when it falls off a rail. [scared]
 
erock said:
Kind of like the mud I got in my new Domino today........

What???? [scared]
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Oh, I laid it down on a pile of wet dirt today while working.  No biggie.  You should see my drills and my Kapex. 

I trust Festool can make a tool that can hold up to my working habits.
 
I don't loan out the white or orange boxes. [big grin] I have my pre Festool tools in what I call my bitch bag. I only loan my tools from my bitch bag. That way I don't loose any friends.:)
 
WarnerConstCo. said:
Kind of like the mud I got in my new Domino today........

Ewww, new Domino. Nice. Needed to a hammer for a framing job?  [poke] You'lll have to start another thread and tell us how you're digging it.

Regarding the topic of loaning tools, it's been discussed here before. I think the general consensus was that most people did not. Not sure I blame them. In my experience, not just with tools, people just don't treat your possessions with the respect that you would yourself. Even family.
 
Not worth the stress of it...if I ding or damage my tool, at least I have no one to blame but myself. 

Scot
 
I have a woodworker friend who has some Festools already, but he needed a Domino for a project.  I had no problem loaning it out to him or the various hand tools (ATP-powered) he needed for his project.  In his case, he knows how to use them.  Most of my other friends and neighbors, I'd do the task for them not because they might bang up the tool or break it, but because they'd have no idea how to use it (most of my friends would only use a 'power tool' if it was part of an Xbox-360 game).

But, I'm loving the sign Scott mentioned.  Do post a pic of that when you get a chance.
 
I responded that I only loan my tools sometimes. Most of my life, going back to when I was a kid, I kept a tool box with a mix of simple tools nearly impossible to damage and more complex tools which were ready for retirement. When a friend or neighbor needed to borrow a particular tool, that came from the "Loaner" box. It was a beloved grandfather "Apa" who explained bout the need for a "Loaner" box. Friends and neighbors will know you own tools, and they will dislike not being allowed to share.

If I felt Festools were so delicate that they are easily broken, I would not have invested in so many and chances are good I would not share experiences with Festools on websites. Sure, it is possible to knock a Festool out of best calibration. The day I cannot run a check, discover a need to re-calibrate and perform the calibration is the day I stop using my own tools.

I like to use the act of loaning a Festool as a teaching moment. Say a friend who is not an experienced woodworker asks to borrow a TS55 with a rail. I show how I clamp a rail to a piece of scrap plywood and attach clamps. Then I check the bevel and set the depth, all before making the cut. Then I ask my friend to mark a cut, then position the splinter guard on the marks, set the clamps and have at it, with a CT doing its dust extraction thing.

The friend asked to borrow a saw, and leaves with a system. Of course that will not be a brand new rail, TS55 or blade. I know how many and what style clamps went into the Systainer. Blades all eventually need to be re-ground or scrapped. Clamps are hardly free, but the loss of one is hardly the end of the world. If the Systainer is returned short some components, that is probably the last time I will loan anything to that individual.

Since 2006 I have never lost a clamp sent out on loan. I might have left a few behind when I was renting space in various shops. Oh well, my Festool dealer has to make a living!
 
Good friends only and if I know how they take care of things. My car was in the shop and my neighbor let me borrow his year old Audi A6; he is allowed to borrow whatever he wants.
 
I loaned my neighbor a wheel barrel and it came back with a broken handle. I also let the guy use some paint and he left the lid off and the paint was ruined. So at that point nothing was ever going to be loaned out.
 
I'm tempted to Ebay the tools (bikes, dive gear, vides, fishing tackle, etc, etc) I've loaned out in the past, with the pickup address being that of the "friend" that borrowed them.

If somebody wants to use a nice tool, they are free to go and buy it.

I'm generous with my time, but I've been burnt too many times over the years with people not giving things back they borrow, or returning it in rubbish condition. Sometimes even vanishing from the face of the earth. No more.

What do you do with a spray gun clogged up with gunk .. that was brand new when you loaned it out?

You can hire anything you want these days - insured and serviced ... but not from me!
 
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