Loaning-out Festool
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hockey_magnet
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If I really felt the borrower knew how to use the tools properly I would. Unfortunately this is usually never the case. Many Festools have little quirks that do not apply to other tools. Particularly the TS with rails, and the Kapex. Even if you tell someone how to use them, their tendency will be to use them like they use their own tools.
never festools.
maybe my old tools to someone i trust.
i lent my old (reasonably new but i got a ts 55) to my father to cut a sheet of ply. someone there with him forced it to cut a circle out of the middle. ruined the blade and the riving knife.
the worst of lending to someone you trust is do you know they will be the only one using it.
i would do the job myself first rather than lend one of my good tools
maybe my old tools to someone i trust.
i lent my old (reasonably new but i got a ts 55) to my father to cut a sheet of ply. someone there with him forced it to cut a circle out of the middle. ruined the blade and the riving knife.
the worst of lending to someone you trust is do you know they will be the only one using it.
i would do the job myself first rather than lend one of my good tools
There was a time when I did loan tools. Then i loaned my chainsaw (just sharpened the chain) to one of my builders. i always used his jobs as preview of how to estimate my jobs for the upcoming busy season. if i lost his work, i might have been bidding a little high. more study and sharper pencil might be a good idea. If i did get his work, I knew I had to get back to the drawing board and determine where my pricing had been too low. Before i realized all of above, i had loaned the saw. The following spring, I needed the saw for a clearing project and called him about it. He did not bring it back the next day as promised, so I went to his house to pick it up. he had to look around, eventually finding it under a pile of form lumber. the bar had been bent, the teeth on the chain were worn to nubbins and the throttle trigger was broken. He told me he had not used it as he had not been able to start it. needless to say, he never borrowed anything from me again.
Larer, I loaned a bandsaw to a good friend. i had gotten the saw from my father and had, at the time, no place to set it up. My friend took the saw home. He found a few things wrong and started fixing. Years later, after he passed on to happier wood working, his son delivered the saw back to me. My friend had not only fixed the saw up to like new (it was nearly 50 yrs old at the time) condition. he had built a beautiful stand for the saw out od oak. He had made up a fine brass plack with my name on it.
i do, occasionally still loan out some tools, but am careful which tools and to whom.
Tinker
Larer, I loaned a bandsaw to a good friend. i had gotten the saw from my father and had, at the time, no place to set it up. My friend took the saw home. He found a few things wrong and started fixing. Years later, after he passed on to happier wood working, his son delivered the saw back to me. My friend had not only fixed the saw up to like new (it was nearly 50 yrs old at the time) condition. he had built a beautiful stand for the saw out od oak. He had made up a fine brass plack with my name on it.
i do, occasionally still loan out some tools, but am careful which tools and to whom.
Tinker
tallgrass said:
This one?
"I don't loan out the white or orange boxes. I have my pre Festool tools in what I call my bag. I only loan my tools from my bag. That way I don't loose any friends."
(post # 11) [big grin]
Todd, you posted at 1.56 in the morning.
That means no coffee because Starbucks was closed.
Maybe the world will look different after your latte in the "mid morning"
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Festool should be happy that I do lend my tools to friends that I know will appreciate them and take good care of them. The result of this has been many sales for Festool.
Only two people I would even consider lending my tools in this world.
One is my best friend since college who happens to live in Taiwan so I don't have to worry about him and the other is my wife because she will never ask me and even if she did, end result will be her letting me buy more green stuff.
One is my best friend since college who happens to live in Taiwan so I don't have to worry about him and the other is my wife because she will never ask me and even if she did, end result will be her letting me buy more green stuff.
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Most tools, I'm Ok with loaning out to a select few good friends... People who know me won't even bother to ask to borrow one of my Festools! 
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Just from my experiences, most tools/things loaned out are not treated with much care no matter what the item or its condition. That's just people's attitude. I very rarely loan out tools, but the select few know who they are. When I borrow something, I bring it back in the same or better condition. No Armor All is involved. [big grin]
I've had to revise my tool loaning policy.
I loaned my practically new framing nailer to my neighbor when he started building his cabin in the mountains. It was new when I started building our house and since I'm not a pro, I used it more like a hobbyist. That is, I took care of it. I never threw it down or dropped it.
After framing an entire house with it, I loaned it to him looking brand new.
I wasn't really in a hurry to get it back. When I did (a year later?) he had left it up at the cabin and the "professionals" that he'd hired had decided to use it. It came back so badly beat up I didn't recognize it at first. My only positive Id was the place in the nail mag where a misfire had tore a hole on the end. The metal ID tag was even missing and most of the body paint.
I suspect they used it on other jobs.
I asked to him to just get it cleaned and serviced and he refused to do even that, saying it still works fine.
No, I don't loan out ANY tools now.
I loaned my practically new framing nailer to my neighbor when he started building his cabin in the mountains. It was new when I started building our house and since I'm not a pro, I used it more like a hobbyist. That is, I took care of it. I never threw it down or dropped it.
After framing an entire house with it, I loaned it to him looking brand new.
I wasn't really in a hurry to get it back. When I did (a year later?) he had left it up at the cabin and the "professionals" that he'd hired had decided to use it. It came back so badly beat up I didn't recognize it at first. My only positive Id was the place in the nail mag where a misfire had tore a hole on the end. The metal ID tag was even missing and most of the body paint.
I suspect they used it on other jobs.
I asked to him to just get it cleaned and serviced and he refused to do even that, saying it still works fine.
No, I don't loan out ANY tools now.
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I dont loan tools. Festool or otherwise.
It's because if I need them, I wont have them.
Plus folks like to hang on to borrowed tools.
I dont want to chase people down to get my stuff back.
Its like loaning a friend money.
I rather just give it to him (in my mind count it as a gift even if I call it a loan).
That way I wont lose any friends
It's because if I need them, I wont have them.
Plus folks like to hang on to borrowed tools.
I dont want to chase people down to get my stuff back.
Its like loaning a friend money.
I rather just give it to him (in my mind count it as a gift even if I call it a loan).
That way I wont lose any friends
When my son and his best buddy were in school, they were both interested in cars. My toolbox was always open to them.
when my son finished with a tool, he just dropped it where he used it. i complained but did not get ornery about it. His buddy was a little neater. he always picked his tools up, cleaned them and put them into his tool box. Both were working for me. When they had left the yard to go to a job, i would go around and pick up my tools that were lying on the ground (my son's work) and investigate the friends tool box and retrieve my tools that had wandered in there.
eventually, the two graduated from HS. The free lunch ended and they had to buy their own tools. They were now proud owners of quite an extensive supply and i started borrowing from them. My son's tools were dropped where I had used them and friends tools ended up in my tool box. the boys took the hint. They put locks on both of their boxes. [scared] They both turned out well. My son and his friend are now about the only two people i know who I would lend tools, trucks or cars to under any and all conditions. I know they will bring them back in just as good shape as they got them in. In fact, my son is partner with me in part of my business. The friend lives about 400 miles away but we visit him and he visits us often.
Tinker
when my son finished with a tool, he just dropped it where he used it. i complained but did not get ornery about it. His buddy was a little neater. he always picked his tools up, cleaned them and put them into his tool box. Both were working for me. When they had left the yard to go to a job, i would go around and pick up my tools that were lying on the ground (my son's work) and investigate the friends tool box and retrieve my tools that had wandered in there.
eventually, the two graduated from HS. The free lunch ended and they had to buy their own tools. They were now proud owners of quite an extensive supply and i started borrowing from them. My son's tools were dropped where I had used them and friends tools ended up in my tool box. the boys took the hint. They put locks on both of their boxes. [scared] They both turned out well. My son and his friend are now about the only two people i know who I would lend tools, trucks or cars to under any and all conditions. I know they will bring them back in just as good shape as they got them in. In fact, my son is partner with me in part of my business. The friend lives about 400 miles away but we visit him and he visits us often.
Tinker
As a pro, I rely on my tools for my family's livelihood... When my neighbor (an accountant and money manager) asked to borrow some tools, I said sure, as long as I could use his office computer to access the internet. He got the point.
I only loan tools if I go along with them to the job.
Dan
I only loan tools if I go along with them to the job.
Dan
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If they knew the value they'd buy their own.
I'll loan out my back up tools to certain people. But not my primary. Those put food on my table.
I'll loan out my back up tools to certain people. But not my primary. Those put food on my table.
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