promhandicam
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Happy to help out a friend or family member if I have the time, but I need my tools to earn my living - that goes for all my tools, not just the Festools.
Loaning-out Festool
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Quote from: tallgrass on April 30, 2012, 12:56 AM
Hey, was my post edited?
This one?
"I don't loan out the white or orange boxes. I have my pre Festool tools in what I call my bag. I only loan my tools from my bag. That way I don't loose any friends."
(post # 11)
Todd, you posted at 1.56 in the morning.
That means no coffee because Starbucks was closed.
Maybe the world will look different after your latte in the "mid morning"
« Last Edit: April 30, 2012, 07:53 AM by Roger Savatteri » Report to moderator Logged
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Yes this post. Two words were selectively removed. The same words and a double space was left in both places. Not angry about it , though it would be nice to be told when this happens.
Hey, was my post edited?
This one?
"I don't loan out the white or orange boxes. I have my pre Festool tools in what I call my bag. I only loan my tools from my bag. That way I don't loose any friends."
(post # 11)
Todd, you posted at 1.56 in the morning.
That means no coffee because Starbucks was closed.
Maybe the world will look different after your latte in the "mid morning"
« Last Edit: April 30, 2012, 07:53 AM by Roger Savatteri » Report to moderator Logged
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Yes this post. Two words were selectively removed. The same words and a double space was left in both places. Not angry about it , though it would be nice to be told when this happens.
tallgrass said:
To answer this question, if you look at your post there is not a software generated edited message. The appearance of the post gives me the impression that some words that were originally posted caused an issue with the word filters. In many cases the word filter will replace the word with a space.
Peter
There is only one person I'd loan my Festools to (and have, and have been leant Festools) and he is a member on this forum. I know that he appreciates the cost and worth to us of them as he is a fellow owner. Other people don't get it.
Anyone else would get a NO.
Anyone else would get a NO.
Frequently loan tools, but not all tools and not to all people --- depends on the tool, person and job. While festool kit is fairly durable, it’s not in the same class as hilti, et al -- so I tend to be a bit more particular. There is certainly nothing particular about FT over others in the same class, it's really their price/durability that makes them a bit more of a consideration. I am certainly more likely to loan a $1200 hilti or a $49 box store special than a C15. Only lend to folks with experience with the type of tool desired – no experience, no tool. Only loan when it’s a single-use project; for a fixed duration and will be used by a single person – no ‘group use’, ‘job site’ or open-ended timeframe. Tend to avoid lending tools that can be knocked out of alignment, ex kapex. Only lend to folks who can easily afford to replace, if broken (I’ve made exceptions when loaning industrial tools to friends for homeowner projects)… I’m sure there are other fuzzy logic branches in the decision tree, but basically I’ll loan just about anything if I believe I’ll get it back in the same condition…I'll loan an industrial tool because it can't be damaged...I'll loan a box store special because I don't care... I'll loan a FT, but it requires a bit more input...
o, well. I wonder, is there a list of forbidden words? I don't mean , dewalt, rigid, craftsman? 
Wood_Junkie
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BBuild said:
LOL, the new guy should be renamed the "former new guy" for that kind of behavior.
Hmmm...loan tools....
Let's just say that there are tools and then there is Festools... If someone is just as deep into green Kool-Aid... sure...but they won't ask...cause that means they have to loan back. [big grin] Festools take a bit of learning to know how to use them. Festool owners will ask show me how xyz Festool tool works.... cause they don't want to mess up the one they buy....LOL
I do have a $9.95 Skill jig saw that I will loan out......
That said I do have one friend that can use them anytime and they will come back as good and a couple of times he had bought a new Festool and given that back to me for my used tool. He sees the quality and how good they are.
Cheers,
Steve
Let's just say that there are tools and then there is Festools... If someone is just as deep into green Kool-Aid... sure...but they won't ask...cause that means they have to loan back. [big grin] Festools take a bit of learning to know how to use them. Festool owners will ask show me how xyz Festool tool works.... cause they don't want to mess up the one they buy....LOL
I do have a $9.95 Skill jig saw that I will loan out......
That said I do have one friend that can use them anytime and they will come back as good and a couple of times he had bought a new Festool and given that back to me for my used tool. He sees the quality and how good they are.
Cheers,
Steve
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I don't loan Festools; but I am happy to demonstrate them if the project is not too big. I don't lend out anything with a motor or sharp surfaces - there is just too much that can go wrong.
I used to borrow tools occasionally, but now I can just rent them. The only tools I borrowed were a chain saw and a 12-volt post hole digger. I had the chain sharpened and the motor tuned before returning it after cutting down a dozen trees. The power cord on the post hole digger was in decrepit shape when I borrowed it and you had to jiggle it to get it to run, so I bought a new set of 20' jumper cables, cut the clamps off one end and rewired the digger. Both lenders said I didn't need to do that when I returned the tools. I didn't care what they said; it's just right to give stuff back better than you received it.
Neither a borrower nor a lender be;
For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry.
This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.
William Shakespeare, "Hamlet", Act 1 scene 3
Greatest English dramatist & poet (1564 - 1616)
[smile]
I used to borrow tools occasionally, but now I can just rent them. The only tools I borrowed were a chain saw and a 12-volt post hole digger. I had the chain sharpened and the motor tuned before returning it after cutting down a dozen trees. The power cord on the post hole digger was in decrepit shape when I borrowed it and you had to jiggle it to get it to run, so I bought a new set of 20' jumper cables, cut the clamps off one end and rewired the digger. Both lenders said I didn't need to do that when I returned the tools. I didn't care what they said; it's just right to give stuff back better than you received it.
Neither a borrower nor a lender be;
For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry.
This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.
William Shakespeare, "Hamlet", Act 1 scene 3
Greatest English dramatist & poet (1564 - 1616)
[smile]
mavrick1903
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I'll make the cut, or route/sand the thing.
Will ask to borrow items? yes, I return them in as-good-as or better condition, with consideration to consumables as well.
But, every time I lend tools out, they come back in barely-as-good-as condition at best, when/if they come back at all. I lent out a drill, and was without it for months, almost a year in fact. I had to ask for it back. Even offered to go pick it up. That was never convenient for the family member that had borrowed it. Sorry, not again.
Will ask to borrow items? yes, I return them in as-good-as or better condition, with consideration to consumables as well.
But, every time I lend tools out, they come back in barely-as-good-as condition at best, when/if they come back at all. I lent out a drill, and was without it for months, almost a year in fact. I had to ask for it back. Even offered to go pick it up. That was never convenient for the family member that had borrowed it. Sorry, not again.
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It's taken me at least 12 years to accumulate the best tools I could buy to help me earn a living and while doing that most of my friends where having new cars and holidays. So if I get to drive the new cars and get sent on holiday for the duration of the tool loan then yeah let's go for it.
What about the "mates" that need stuff cut shaped planed sanded stained.........I have plenty of those as well.
What about the "mates" that need stuff cut shaped planed sanded stained.........I have plenty of those as well.
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I stopped by a local shop yesterday to show the owner the Domino XL and SysLite. He was commissioned to fix a pocket door in the Capital Building of the "Republic of Texas". At least it seemed like it may be that old (original).
The challenge was to clean up a dado on the bottom of the door, so, running a router horizontally. I suggested the two-Edge Guide method with a twist. He already had one Edge Guide for his OF 1400, so I brought mine and two sheets of 6 mm Plexiglass that were about 10" x 12". The purpose of those sheets was to replace the black plastic runners on the edges of the Edge Guides. That's the twist - by using the large area of the Plexiglass sheets, it would secure the router much better and should result in a cleaner dado.
I know the Plexiglass Routing Aid would have worked but using the method above, he will have "micro-adjustment". We'll see how it all worked out...
'Long story short, loaning of a Festool item might preserve some of Texas history. That Capital Building is bigger than the one in DC because it could be... Oh, and Texas is bigger than France...
Tom
The challenge was to clean up a dado on the bottom of the door, so, running a router horizontally. I suggested the two-Edge Guide method with a twist. He already had one Edge Guide for his OF 1400, so I brought mine and two sheets of 6 mm Plexiglass that were about 10" x 12". The purpose of those sheets was to replace the black plastic runners on the edges of the Edge Guides. That's the twist - by using the large area of the Plexiglass sheets, it would secure the router much better and should result in a cleaner dado.
I know the Plexiglass Routing Aid would have worked but using the method above, he will have "micro-adjustment". We'll see how it all worked out...
'Long story short, loaning of a Festool item might preserve some of Texas history. That Capital Building is bigger than the one in DC because it could be... Oh, and Texas is bigger than France...
Tom
I will lend a FT only if the borrower has some of his own FT's. I don't know anyone that has any FT's...so the problem solves itself, lol.
Like many other guys said here, I keep my "old timey tools" to loan out. If they don't come back that person's name gets crossed off my trust list, but I'm not up nights worrying about where the tools wound up.
Like many other guys said here, I keep my "old timey tools" to loan out. If they don't come back that person's name gets crossed off my trust list, but I'm not up nights worrying about where the tools wound up.
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Tom Bellemare said:
Good idea on the plexiglass. I've used some scrap ply, but the plexiglass would slide better and give visibility.
Texas may be bigger than all those things, but one thing I noticed while in Texas is that all the guys still have 30" waists. Somehow they squeeze into and belt up 30" pants with a bit of a round thing right above the belt.
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