Long life bags vs hepa filter bags

[fin]

1 bag = 2 beers approx here like. maybe a beer and a half.

 

[sicd_steve]

I at least cut along the bottom empty the sawdust in my compost ( I use solid timbers ) add some choke poo to up the nitrogen level in my compost.

I use then some high stick pvc tape and tape the bottom to get another fill up before I throw it out. I am just a hobbiest so this a least gets a bit more from the hepa bags here are at $20 each for the CT36 so they are at least 4 beers each, not like England perhaps we have to pay for our beer to be cold not off the shelf warm beer

 

[Carl Prentiss]

$9.40 per bag for the ct48. What beer do you drink?

 

[pprior]

Just buy a dust deputy if you go through that many bags....

 

[RC]

Well a good import beer like anything from the UK or Belgium would cost 9-12€ per bottle (0,33l/0,5l) which roughly translates to $9-$13.5 US... You can buy the local yuck for about 5€/pint but I would not touch that with a 10-foot pole.

 

[Gary in Texas]

I would opt for the dust deputy over the long life bag.... The dust deputy catches so much of the dust and chips very little ever makes it to the bag, and the regular paper type bags will then last a very, very little no time!!!  Even my regular shop vac has the pre-stage separator (Rockler version) and that catches most debris and all but eliminates changing the shop vac bags....to basically a yearly change....

Steve, it makes sense that your long life bag and vac had reduced suction over time.  The bag with all that fine dust simply fills the pores to the point air flow through the bag is greatly diminished!  Blowing some air the opposite direction I think would help clean the pores somewhat....

I would have thought washing the long life bags would tighten the fabric somewhat, at least make sure you air dry the bag and don't throw it into the clothes dryer....

Gary

 

[fin]

I at least cut along the bottom empty the sawdust in my compost ( I use solid timbers ) add some choke poo to up the nitrogen level in my compost.

I use then some high stick pvc tape and tape the bottom to get another fill up before I throw it out. I am just a hobbiest so this a least gets a bit more from the hepa bags here are at $20 each for the CT36 so they are at least 4 beers each, not like England perhaps we have to pay for our beer to be cold not off the shelf warm beer

haha the beer at the pub i go too is £2.95. but on weekends it can be like £4 a beer. depends where i go too.

ive had my vac for almost 2 years now and i think im down to my last couple of bags now. i emptied one of them loads of times before i binned it. it seems to last ages because its mainly on my mitre saw and i only recently got the festool planer so ill probably go through more and more. of1010 soon to come too so be more to use the hoover with

 

[tbellemare]

Well a good import beer like anything from the UK or Belgium would cost 9-12€ per bottle (0,33l/0,5l) which roughly translates to $9-$13.5 US... You can buy the local yuck for about 5€/pint but I would not touch that with a 10-foot pole.

Those brew prices make Festool prices look like a "Fire Sale"!

I can get nearly a liter-and-a-half of Samuel Smith products here for around the price of your half-liter. Perhaps you are referring to a higher order brew... I prefer our fresh, very high quality local brews. There has been an explosion of uber quality breweries and distilleries around here. Many are led by Chemical Engineers with successful careers and noticing everyone around them dying.

I've been using the Festool Long-Life bags since my former CT 22. I have one now for my CT 26. If collecting chips, it's a great way to go. I also use it for sawing and sanding, but only wood. It's the same 5 micron primary filter as a disposable bag.

One reason why I only use it for wood is that I empty in a compost pile, while upwind. Around here, it can be totally dry for long periods so it's an excuse to give the compost pile a drink also... I do occasional drywall work, (a lot recently), and I would never consider using the long-life bag for gypsum dust. It cakes up everything and I'm pretty certain would quickly clog my bag. Even using the new style, Vlies (fleece), Self-Cleaning bags, gypsum dust (drywall) clogs them way too quickly. They are superior for that work to the former paper bags but still clog with gypsum dust before they're full.

I agree with Alex that the Long Life Bags can be cleaned though I've never had to. I just punch it out upside down and all has been good so far. Again, I don't use mine for anything other than wood. I occasionally work with wood, metals, stone, glass, etc... I use disposable bags for everything but wood. Because of the closure mechanisms on the disposable bags, they are good for temporary removal and reuse without making a mess.

Tom

 

[Carl Prentiss]

Thankfully it's not a one size fits all world. In spite of the condescending remarks, I don't feel bad at all about re-using a bag a couple of times before I toss it. I would think that ten or twelve re-uses pays for a woodpecker something or other. Then again, I'm retired so have plenty of time for such frivolous pursuits.

 

[nerfball]

I shake out and re-use the non reusable ones two or three or four times before I replace it. Works fine for me.

That's something I would never consider and really dislike. You save what, 4 dollar? With all the work you put in to fill that bag, shouldn't that make enough money to buy a new bag? Calculate the cost of the bag in your prices. I make hundreds of euros by filling one bag.

Congratulations.

I don't really count it like that - when I was making money with my tools I lived more than an hour away from the Festool store so it made sense to shake it into the jobsite bin that was already there. It is slightly ironic about the dust collection abilities of the tools and then going to dumping all that dust out, but truthfully I don't care that much.

 

[TheTrooper]

Would I be safe to assume that I could sand 1 finished staircase from 40 - 120 grit without filling the stock white bag on a CT36